If Obamacare goes through, it will require rationing; "Offshore" will follow "Lipidleggin'" out of fiction and into reality with the help of projects like this.

At this rate "Foet" might not be far behind.

[quote=fpw] If Obamacare goes through, it will require rationing; "Offshore" will follow "Lipidleggin'" out of fiction and into reality with the help of projects like this.

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And with the monumental vacuum skulls that we have on the Supreme Court, it probably WILL go through.

And with the monumental vacuum skulls that we have on the Supreme Court, it probably WILL go through.

Ah, The Nazgul Nine in Mordor on the Potomac

I am hoping Obama's health care does happen. I think it's a good thing for America.

I am hoping Obama's health care does happen. I think it's a good thing for America.

No, it's not a good thing for all. This plan will tax the people that have insurance, require people to get insurance or get fined and lead to rationing of healthcare.
If you want socialized medicine.....this Obama plan is for you. I agree that this country needs healthcare reform....but forcing those that work....and some are barely making a living in this economy......to pay for the have nots, isn't a solution...it's another burden.

The Fed and the states need to shake up their welfare rolls. There are those that truly need assistance and kids need medical care. But the Fed hands out SS disability bene's with hardly a forethought and the states have so many double/triple dippers...it's comical if not criminal.
I work in healthcare.....you wouldn't believe the crap I see.....and sometimes report.

I am hoping Obama's health care does happen. I think it's a good thing for America.

Yeah, maybe it would get Americans off their fat fundaments and start demanding for Obama to be impeached, tried for treason, and shot.

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No, it's not a good thing for all. This plan will tax the people that have insurance, require people to get insurance or get fined and lead to rationing of healthcare.
If you want socialized medicine.....this Obama plan is for you. I agree that this country needs healthcare reform....but forcing those that work....and some are barely making a living in this economy......to pay for the have nots, isn't a solution...it's another burden.

The Fed and the states need to shake up their welfare rolls. There are those that truly need assistance and kids need medical care. But the Fed hands out SS disability bene's with hardly a forethought and the states have so many double/triple dippers...it's comical if not criminal.
I work in healthcare.....you wouldn't believe the crap I see.....and sometimes report.

At one point, I believed a lot of this.

Then, at 24 years old, my retina spontaneously detached. I needed three to five surgeries to save my eye from total blindness (though it's not much better now). Of those five, I had to pay for three, since Surgery 4 failed leaving me in agonizing pain (I couldn't eat or drink or sleep for three days) and Surgery 5 was covered as well by the doctor who screwed up. Those three surgeries totaled $100,000. Had the changes so far for Universal Healthcare not gone into effect, I wouldn't have been eligible to stay on my dad's insurance and my own. Because I had two insurance plans, I only had to pay about $2k out of pocket per surgery.

My condition wasn't anything life threatening, but I would be bankrupt if not for the changes.

No, it's not a good thing for all. This plan will tax the people that have insurance, require people to get insurance or get fined and lead to rationing of healthcare.
If you want socialized medicine.....this Obama plan is for you. I agree that this country needs healthcare reform....but forcing those that work....and some are barely making a living in this economy......to pay for the have nots, isn't a solution...it's another burden.

The Fed and the states need to shake up their welfare rolls. There are those that truly need assistance and kids need medical care. But the Fed hands out SS disability bene's with hardly a forethought and the states have so many double/triple dippers...it's comical if not criminal.
I work in healthcare.....you wouldn't believe the crap I see.....and sometimes report.

Anyone ever listen to Jacque Fresco? I think his ideas on switching to a resource based economy are pretty innovative. His whole Venus project is pretty intriguing.

At one point, I believed a lot of this.

Then, at 24 years old, my retina spontaneously detached. I needed three to five surgeries to save my eye from total blindness (though it's not much better now). Of those five, I had to pay for three, since Surgery 4 failed leaving me in agonizing pain (I couldn't eat or drink or sleep for three days) and Surgery 5 was covered as well by the doctor who screwed up. Those three surgeries totaled $100,000. Had the changes so far for Universal Healthcare not gone into effect, I wouldn't have been eligible to stay on my dad's insurance and my own. Because I had two insurance plans, I only had to pay about $2k out of pocket per surgery.

My condition wasn't anything life threatening, but I would be bankrupt if not for the changes.

I agree to an extent, 'Obamacare' has been extremely beneficial to me personally and without medicaid I'd be paying for my daughter's birth for the next eight years. When looking at healthcare, however, it affects the whole nation. Just because we didn't pay those bills doesn't mean the hospitals took a loss. The bills are still paid by insurance companies. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/44...6212503793 here's an interesting article about how insurance companies are affected by the economy and their impact on it. While I still feel like medical coverage should be accessible to every citizen there has to be a way to do it without crippling our economy. (possibly a resource based economy)