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Libby   05-06-2008, 08:26 PM
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jimbow8 Wrote:I do not remember actually seeing a gun. I thought he smashed the window "with his fists." So I just watched it again and I do not see a gun in his hand. Moreso, I see NO GUN in his hand as he is walking away down the alley. The window pane looks like it was shattered, not shot. ......imho

That is what I thought at first, too, but if you look really carefully, you can see a point of origin, and it is a bullet hole. And you see him fiddleing with his belt, maybe to put a gun back...

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
Wapitikev   05-06-2008, 08:31 PM
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Libby Wrote:That is what I thought at first, too, but if you look really carefully, you can see a point of origin, and it is a bullet hole. And you see him fiddleing with his belt, maybe to put a gun back...

OK, OK! [putting the Sixth Sense DVD into the laptop] I'm checking the film, just like an NHL goal judge.

Will post results soon.

-Wapitikev

Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):

Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis

On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Libby   05-06-2008, 08:35 PM
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Wapitikev Wrote:OK, OK! [putting the Sixth Sense DVD into the laptop] I'm checking the film, just like an NHL goal judge.

Will post results soon.

-Wapitikev

Look closely!!Smile

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
webby   05-06-2008, 08:49 PM
#14
Wapitikev Wrote:OK, OK! [putting the Sixth Sense DVD into the laptop] I'm checking the film, just like an NHL goal judge.

Will post results soon.

-Wapitikev
I'm betting on Jimbow for this one. I remember seeing a hole in the glass, but nothing like a gun anywhere about. I figured the hole and shattered glass was caused by the psychic energy of the anger Bruce's character was feeling at that moment.

Wapitikev Wrote:It's true, though, that if you name virtually any popular male actor from the current era, it is very difficult to find movies that they starred in where guns do not appear somewhere.

Are you making a veiled commentary on the state of storytelling in Hollywood? :eek:

Best be careful...what if the NRA discovers that you've uncovered their secret agenda?

-Wapitikev

I don't think that's what Libby was doing, but I'll do it, and not so veiled either. Wink

For a bunch of gun-grabbing, socialist-leaning liberals that so much of Hollywood is, they sure do like to depend on their "hero" being armed and able to shoot.

Can't have it both ways. Either responsible people who keep and bear arms are the good guys or they aren't. Certain Hollywood celebrities are very two-faced about it, which I have no respect for whatsoever. (Are you listening, Ah-nold?)

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Libby   05-06-2008, 08:56 PM
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webby Wrote:I'm betting on Jimbow for this one. I remember seeing a hole in the glass, but nothing like a gun anywhere about. I figured the hole and shattered glass was caused by the psychic energy of the anger Bruce's character was feeling at that moment.

At first I thought Bruce was tucking in his shirt, but I had noticed a hole, so I that that maybe he was putting a gun away...

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
jimbow8   05-06-2008, 09:02 PM
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Libby Wrote:That is what I thought at first, too, but if you look really carefully, you can see a point of origin, and it is a bullet hole. And you see him fiddleing with his belt, maybe to put a gun back...

My DVD player has a handy-dandy ZOOM feature. I zoomed to his hand and I can distinctly see the curve of his forefinger all the way around to his thumb with no gun in between. That doesn't mean that he hadn't already put a gun in his jacket or waistband, though. It also seemed like an odd position to be holding his hand/arm. My first thought was that maybe he injured the hand while smashing the window pane, but I'm not sure if that makes sense either.

As for the window itself, a bullet hole normally (at least in films) creates a circular "spiderweb" pattern. This window appeared to has scattered cracks at odd angles ..... very similar to smashing a window pane with one's hand (speaking from experience).

So I can't DEFINITIVELY say there was no gun, but I can say that in the instances where I could see his hand, there was no gun there.


Now I'm going to watch Life of Brian. I'm pretty sure that there are no guns in that movie. Wink
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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
webby   05-06-2008, 09:07 PM
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jimbow8 Wrote:Now I'm going to watch Life of Brian. I'm pretty sure that there are no guns in that movie. Wink

Blessed are the cheesemakers. Enjoy. Smile

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It's Thirteen O'Clock
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"I said, Hey Senorita - that's astute, I said, why don't we get together and call ourselves an institute?" --Paul Simon
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"In the final analysis, the last line of defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves." -- Ron Paul

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Libby   05-06-2008, 09:10 PM
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jimbow8 Wrote:As for the window itself, a bullet hole normally (at least in films) creates a circular "spiderweb" pattern. This window appeared to has scattered cracks at odd angles ..... very similar to smashing a window pane with one's hand (speaking from experience).

I thought the door was one of those that looks cracked but isn't. Kind of crakled glass. A bullet in that would produce a similar effect to what you discribe.
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"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
Libby   05-06-2008, 09:11 PM
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jimbow8 Wrote:Now I'm going to watch Life of Brian. I'm pretty sure that there are no guns in that movie. Wink

Monty Python, Classic! Always look on the bright side of life!Wink Enjoy

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
Dave   05-06-2008, 09:35 PM
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jimbow8 Wrote:It also seemed like an odd position to be holding his hand/arm. My first thought was that maybe he injured the hand while smashing the window pane, but I'm not sure if that makes sense either.
He was holding his side where he was shot. As if the force of the blow flared up the old injury.

That was my interpretation.

Dave
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