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Scott Miller   05-06-2008, 09:38 PM
#21
jimbow8 Wrote:Now I'm going to watch Life of Brian. I'm pretty sure that there are no guns in that movie. Wink

But there are stones and crucifixes and implements of cruelty.

Scott

Jesus died for your sins, get your money's worth. Chad Daniels
Libby   05-06-2008, 09:40 PM
#22
Scott Miller Wrote:But there are stones and crucifixes and implements of cruelty.

JEHOVAH!!!!

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
jimbow8   05-06-2008, 10:31 PM
#23
Scott Miller Wrote:But there are stones and crucifixes and implements of cruelty.
And there is a gun .... of sorts - a LASER gun ..... on the spaceship. Totally forgot about that. Big Grin
Libby Wrote:JEHOVAH!!!!
Blasphemy!!

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Libby   05-06-2008, 10:34 PM
#24
jimbow8 Wrote:And there is a gun .... of sorts - a LASER gun ..... on the spaceship. Totally forgot about that. Big Grin

Blasphemy!!
What, all I said was Jehovah...:p

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
Wapitikev   05-06-2008, 10:45 PM
#25
Libby Wrote:Look closely!!Smile

Ok. First, the glass in the door has at least 4 stress-points from which the cracks radiate outward.

While I'm no expert, I have shot more than one or two windshields out of old car-wrecks with a pellet gun and a 22 and seen bullet holes in old farmhouse windows and none that I can remember left multiple stress cracks in the glass like that door had.

It is almost like someone was leaning against the door with their hands and elbows and pushed on the glass in multiple places at once, thereby leaving several "stars" in the glass from which cracks extend outward in all directions but without actually shattering it to the point that it falls out of the frame.

Then, we see Bruce walking away with his right hand in his belt up to the knuckles.

No gun is observable.

So what is Bruce doing with his hand in his belt?

A) he is holding a gun.

or

B) he is holding his hand in his belt because his fingers are cut from the glass (or at least he thinks they are cut).

...if B) then why in his belt?

Answer: He's a ghost...does a ghost bleed...I don't know but if we don't think to ask the question "Why no blood" then we are caught more off-guard by the surprise ending.

So, while we wait for the blue-ray edition to see if the hand in belt is holding something, the question is open to interpretation.

Personally, I don't think it is a gun...but I can't prove it...but neither can it be conclusively proven that it IS a gun, so I stand by my movie-with-no-gun list as it is written.

Maybe someone can find the script on the web and see what it says.

-Wapitikev

Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):

Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis

On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Libby   05-06-2008, 10:48 PM
#26
Wapitikev Wrote:Ok. First, the glass in the door has at least 4 stress-points from which the cracks radiate outward.

While I'm no expert, I have shot more than one or two windshields out of old car-wrecks with a pellet gun and a 22 and seen bullet holes in old farmhouse windows and none that I can remember left multiple stress cracks in the glass like that door had.

It is almost like someone was leaning against the door with their hands and elbows and pushed on the glass in multiple places at once, thereby leaving several "stars" in the glass from which cracks extend outward in all directions but without actually shattering it to the point that it falls out of the frame.

Then, we see Bruce walking away with his right hand in his belt up to the knuckles.

No gun is observable.

So what is Bruce doing with his hand in his belt?

A) he is holding a gun.

or

B) he is holding his hand in his belt because his fingers are cut from the glass (or at least he thinks they are cut).

...if B) then why in his belt?

Answer: He's a ghost...does a ghost bleed...I don't know but if we don't think to ask the question "Why no blood" then we are caught more off-guard by the surprise ending.

So, while we wait for the blue-ray edition to see if the hand in belt is holding something, the question is open to interpretation.

Personally, I don't think it is a gun...but I can't prove it...but neither can it be conclusively proven that it IS a gun, so I stand by my movie-with-no-gun list as it is written.

Maybe someone can find the script on the web and see what it says.

-Wapitikev

OK, you win.*sigh*Smile

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
Wapitikev   05-06-2008, 10:51 PM
#27
Libby Wrote:OK, you win.*sigh*Smile

Don't worry Libby. You're still out in front in the astute observations game. Just ask FPW. Smile

-Wapitikev

Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):

Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis

On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Libby   05-06-2008, 10:54 PM
#28
Wapitikev Wrote:Don't worry Libby. You're still out in front in the astute observations game. Just ask FPW. Smile

-Wapitikev

Thanks.Big Grin

"Lord, what fools these mortals be"

"The opposite of war isn't peace; it's creation."

You'd think that Killing people would make them like you, but it doesn't! it just makes people dead.
jimbow8   05-06-2008, 10:57 PM
#29
Wapitikev Wrote:Ok. First, the glass in the door has at least 4 stress-points from which the cracks radiate outward.

While I'm no expert, I have shot more than one or two windshields out of old car-wrecks with a pellet gun and a 22 and seen bullet holes in old farmhouse windows and none that I can remember left multiple stress cracks in the glass like that door had.

It is almost like someone was leaning against the door with their hands and elbows and pushed on the glass in multiple places at once, thereby leaving several "stars" in the glass from which cracks extend outward in all directions but without actually shattering it to the point that it falls out of the frame.

Then, we see Bruce walking away with his right hand in his belt up to the knuckles.

No gun is observable.

So what is Bruce doing with his hand in his belt?

A) he is holding a gun.

or

B) he is holding his hand in his belt because his fingers are cut from the glass (or at least he thinks they are cut).

...if B) then why in his belt?

Answer: He's a ghost...does a ghost bleed...I don't know but if we don't think to ask the question "Why no blood" then we are caught more off-guard by the surprise ending.

So, while we wait for the blue-ray edition to see if the hand in belt is holding something, the question is open to interpretation.

Personally, I don't think it is a gun...but I can't prove it...but neither can it be conclusively proven that it IS a gun, so I stand by my movie-with-no-gun list as it is written.

Maybe someone can find the script on the web and see what it says.

-Wapitikev

Agreed. It can't be "proven" but I'd say NO GUN.

and btw, he does have a gun at the "end" of 12 Monkeys.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Wapitikev   05-06-2008, 11:09 PM
#30
jimbow8 Wrote:Agreed. It can't be "proven" but I'd say NO GUN.

and btw, he does have a gun at the "end" of 12 Monkeys.

I thought I rememberd something like that!

Thanks.

-Wapitikev

Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):

Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis

On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
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