I didn't pick up on it when I watched it the first time because I thought I was watching a flashback. Why would his father be alive? What's up with that?

My wife and I were debating that after re-watching season three. Is Jack's father alive or is Jack just so messed up he's confused? It was very cryptic when he talked to the doctor and then again when he spoke to the pharmacist.

So much to discuss...I love LOST.

I think Maggers hit it on the head. Time is "bent" on the island. People and animals that were, are now again. Jack's father...Kate's horse.
The safest place for Hurley is a place that he has known before. The State institution. His money "gone" since he was declared dead, Hurley can get back to the simple and safe things.
The Oceanic six, who might the other 3 be? I don't think Kate had Sawyer's child. I think the other 3 are Jin, Sun and their child. You don't want to give birth on the island, they die.
The man that comes to see Hurley, he wants to know if there are people still on the island. I think he works for Penny's father. But does Desmond leave the island or does Penny come to join him now that she knows where he is?
Who is in that casket? Not enough info yet for me to venture a guess.
I now think that Michael and Walt are in the same "plane" as Charlie...they're dead. I think the island "uses" their images for it's own manipulative reasons.
Notice how a dead AnaLucia doesn't show up to taunt those alive. Could this be because she didn't mean as much to the survivors, therefore her image couldn't manipulate as much?

So much for my thoughts for now. My phones ringing and the beeper really needs to be drowned. Back to work!

I some have watched the Missing Pieces that have been posted on ABC's site. Well the new one entitled "And So It Begins" has been released, though not on ABC's site yet. It is available on YouTube however.

It definitely makes you wonder...

If you're going to get an HD television it's best to get a 1080p model, NOT a 1080i. If you are on a budget 720p is still a better choice over 1080i. Simply, 1080i is interlaced HD so your resolution is in fact 540 instead of 720 or 1080. Always go with a number that ends in P (progressive).

Thanks, Marc. BTW, my birthday is in June. (hint, hint).

Susan

Notice how a dead AnaLucia doesn't show up to taunt those alive.

I think it's because even alternative planes of reality hate bi-atches like Ana Lucia!

Or probably because the actress that plays her has run-ins with the law and even spent some time in jail.

Or what you said!

Susan

And we know for sure who 3 of the 6 are ....

I don't think that is necessarilly true (assuming you are referring to Jack, Hurley, and Kate). Hurley said it to Jack. I'm thinking Kate may not have come back with them or even at that time (it takes place before the other flash-forwards - Jack says he's thinking of growing a beard). Kate may have come back with someone else, hence her being concerned that "he might wonder where I am."

That's right. Michael (Harold Perrineau) didn't show up in Season 3 credits at all on IMDB.com, either. But Mr. Eko, whose real name I can't spell, was listed in several episodes in which he didn't appear during the second season. It seems to me they list the entire cast for the season in the opening credits. For instance, when Boone returned in the 3rd season to guide Locke in his trippy experience, the actor who played Boone was listed as a guest, not as part of the ensemble, because he was only visiting.

Michael shows up in the credits for upcoming episodes.

Damn, I shouldn't post at work. I had this whole well thought out post that I had to dump because of a sudden meeting in my office. :eek: The post had to do with the references to Jack's dad in the final episode of season 3.

Nothing is for sure on this show, that we know. In fact, that's really all we know.

But...I think that Jack's dad is dead when Jack is speaking with the new chief surgeon, who, by the way, had replaced Jack's dad as chief of surgery. The new chief seems to be able to deal with Jack and his strange behavior well enough until Jack tells him to go get his father and bring him down to compare him to Jack and then they'd see who was drunker. The new chief surgeon looked startled and concerned at that statement by Jack, probably because he knew Jack's dad was dead.

Then, later in that episode, Jack is waiting on line to renew his prescription for Oxycodone. The pharmacist says she can't; Jack drags out another script from his pocket. The pharmacist says you can't prescribe for yourself; Jack tells her that's his father, Christian Shephard. The pharmacist starts to call Jack's father's office (the number is on the script) and Jack slams down his hand, shouts no, and storms off...right into a display of sunglasses.

I got from those 2 interchanges that Jack's dad is still dead. Jack knew not to stick around when the pharmacist called his father's office 'cause he'd get in some big trouble trying to fill a prescription written by a dead man. In the interchange with the new chief surgeon, Jack had just taken a few pills and was most likely waaaaay out to lunch, or in deep denial.

My wife and I were debating that after re-watching season three. Is Jack's father alive or is Jack just so messed up he's confused? It was very cryptic when he talked to the doctor and then again when he spoke to the pharmacist.

Screencaps on some websites distinctly show Jack's father sitting in the rocking chair in the cabin.

I don't think that is necessarilly true (assuming you are referring to Jack, Hurley, and Kate). Hurley said it to Jack. I'm thinking Kate may not have come back with them or even at that time (it takes place before the other flash-forwards - Jack says he's thinking of growing a beard). Kate may have come back with someone else, hence her being concerned that "he might wonder where I am."

Don't forget about Michael and Walt, who would also be considered as survivors of Oceanic 815, providing they ever made it back to anywhere.

I wrote earlier in this thread that the "he" that Kate mentions having to get back to could be a baby she may have had, although a baby wouldn't exactly be "wondering" where she is.

As I said earlier, since we know that time is getting more and more twisted with every new episode, I don't think we can take anything for granted regarding when a particular scene takes place.

What I know about this show is that I will never, ever be able to second guess those writers. They are crafty folks who think far outside the box. In fact, they don't even consider boxes. There are no boundaries to their ideas, which makes this show so fabu.

Screencaps on some websites distinctly show.... sitting in the rocking chair in the cabin.

In which scene? When we and Locke first see Jacob, or when Hurley sees the person we've come to think of as Jacob?

In which scene? When we and Locke first see Jacob, or when Hurley sees the person we've come to think of as Jacob?

In the one last night with Hurley. Don't look HERE unless you want a spoiler.

Don't forget about Michael and Walt, who would also be considered as survivors of Oceanic 815, providing they ever made it back to anywhere.

I wrote earlier in this thread that the "he" that Kate mentions having to get back to could be a baby she may have had, although a baby wouldn't exactly be "wondering" where she is.

As I said earlier, since we know that time is getting more and more twisted with every new episode, I don't think we can take anything for granted regarding when a particular scene takes place.

What I know about this show is that I will never, ever be able to second guess those writers. They are crafty folks who think far outside the box. In fact, they don't even consider boxes. There are no boundaries to their ideas, which makes this show so fabu.

The most HORRIBLE theory that I've read so far is that the scene with Jack and Kate by the airport runway is the VERY end of the show: the VERY last scene. THAT would PISS ME OFF! I can only hope that isn't true.

There was a theory that the Oceanic six were represented by the 6 numbers (4,8,15,16,23,42) and were designated by their seat numbers on the plane: Jack was in seat 23A, etc. But it doesn't (seem to) hold up well: Ana Lucia was in 42F, Hurley is in 29G; I forget the other contradictions.

I'm thinking that the "him" that Kate has to get back to is Ben or one of the Others or even someone from the freighter.

Oh, and I heard an interview yesterday morning with the guy who plays Ben (Michael _____?), and he 'confirmed' the allegation that the MSFs (Mysterious Freighter People ?) make the Others look "warm and fuzzy" by comparison. Scary!