A bit sloppy that just before the attack on the sub, no one asked non-Locke why he didn't go smoke as he did the night before and secure the sub instead of having them risk their lives.

Sawyer did want Jack and unLocke to stay far away from the sub so he could have everyone else on board. If the area was cleared first by the smoke monster then unLocke might get on the sub before everyone else. And unLocke isn't volunteering his abilities because if they get shot down- well, he wants them to die anyway. Which leads to another thought: Was Kate the only one shot because the snipers knew that Widmore didn't care if she died? I need to stop asking questions.

Something else. The actress who plays Eloise Hawking did a reading out here Monday night (she read a Neil Gaiman short) and had an interview with the local paper where she revealed that she will be in the finale.

A bit sloppy that just before the attack on the sub, no one asked non-Locke why he didn't go smoke as he did the night before and secure the sub instead of having them risk their lives.

I think the episode was full of sloppyness. Jin and Sun are dying and don't speak of their inphant child that will become an orphin? Besides the silliness I still loved the episode.

I think the episode was full of sloppyness. Jin and Sun are dying and don't speak of their inphant child that will become an orphin? Besides the silliness I still loved the episode.

Well, there's been some degree of sloppiness throughout the entire series. Mr. Webby was especially bugged in the first 2 or 3 seasons by what he called "Sayid's Magic Glock" (just how do you make that hammer cocking sound with a hammerless gun, Sayid?). It hasn't been an unforgiveable amount of slop so I choose not to let it bother me when everything else is so amazingly good.

There's an excellent (and hilarious, imho) mockumentary on the "extras" disc in the season 5 DVD set. It points out all the "sloppy" things about the Oceanic 6 storyline as part of some vast, shadowy conspiracy.



I didn't have a problem with Sun and Jin not specifically mentioning Ji Yeon (who would be a toddler now at 3 yrs old, not an infant). They only had a couple of minutes for whatever they were going to say and they didn't need to say anything about their daughter. It was in their eyes and in their last kiss. They were well aware of that pain without having to speak the words.

There have also been a lot of comments out on the web saying Jin should not have stayed with Sun and orphaned Ji Yeon. I disagree with those comments. Jeff Jensen's Totally Lost recap has this thought on the subject, stated beautifully:
[INDENT]I like to think that if Ji Yeon should ever learn about what happened to her mother and father, and if she were to ever learn of the choice her father made, she would be grateful, and more, she would be inspired. It's a wonderful story, a story that says something about the way life should be lived, a story she can pass on to her children, and they to their children, and so on. Jin didn't hurt his daughter with his choice — he gave her a gift. If you disagree with me, you're just wrong.
[/INDENT]

Well, those who died, died on the Island. Does that mean they are necessarily good and truly dead? I don't know.

I am hoping for some fantastical resolution of the flash sideways with Island-life and some fabulous magic to happen so that no one dies and...

* Charlie and Claire can raise Aaron on the beach
* Jin and Sun would be together in Korea, the US or on the Island
* Sawyer and Juliet can live happily ever after in whatever decade they choose
* Kate can play her come-here-go-away games with Jack forever
* Hurley and Libby can have an eternal pic-a-nic (as Yoggi Bear would say)
* Sayid can choose who he really wants - Shannon or his Iranian girl (like we don't know who he would choose!) and live with her forever
* Charlotte and Daniel can be smart scientists trekking all over the globe
* Desmond and Penny WILL be together (the series hangs on that)
* and, if I had my way, Locke, the real and genuine Locke, would hook up with Danielle and they'd live a crazy wild Island life forever.

After reading Maggers' post...it made me wonder. What if...and yes it's just an idea that just popped into my head.....all the sacrifice and deaths are like an atonement for each character. The flash sideways are the lives that are really being lead...the island life is choices made...good or bad...the sacrifice done would be judged and then that person would get what they really wanted...if it was deemed the right choice. Now that sounds kind of like the Ka schtick from King's world....uh...on second thought...I don't want that.

"Sayid's Magic Glock" (just how do you make that hammer cocking sound with a hammerless gun, Sayid?).

LOL Exactly.

... and which survivors are left?

The same four that were singled out at the end of Season 2.


(well aside from Ben, Miles, and Richard, who have disappeared into the jungle for the time being).

Coincidence? I think not.

Oh wow! I had forgotten about that! No way that is a coincidence!

Great episode, very powerful. It's unfolding more or less like I thought it would. Prediction, Ben's group gets offed next week setting the stage for the big purge that will be the final episode. What happened to those guys anyways? They left a couple of episodes back to blow up the plane and it looks like they never got there. what a great season it's been. I think it's the best since season 2.