ooh! ooh! Pick mine! Pick mine! This is what I have and I love it! For some reason it especially likes the starfire ammo.

TAURUS ULTRA-LITE MODEL 85 .38 Spl. REVOLVER



SPECIFICATIONS
Model: 85SSUL
Caliber: .38 SPL +P RATED
Capacity: 5
Barrel Length: 2"
Action: DA/SA
Finish: Stainless Steel
Grips: Rubber
Weight: 17 oz
Construction: Ultralite-Alloy
Frame: Small
Front Sight: Fixed
Rear Sight: Fixed Trigger Type: Smooth
Length: 6-1/2''
Width: 1.346"
Height: 4.28"
Rate of Twist: 1:16"
Grooves: 5
Safety: Transfer Bar

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION The compact 5 shot self-defense favorite built on a hammer-forged frame +P Rated for Duty Use! The Taurus UltraLite models in Blue or Stainless steel make for uncomplicated carry and the Total Titanium models make for a lighter sturdier package, even when confidently packing extra powerful .38 Special +P ammunition. Concealed hammer and double-action only options on the steel models feature comfortable rubber grips and trouble-free low profile sights. For those who need a dependable partner on and off-duty.

Does it come in pink? :confused:

OK - this is kinda a silly one - why can't he bring out the semmerling again? - they wouldnt be looking for it in LA

and another scary thought - Jack at Disneyland

:::its a small world after all:::


Icarus

and another scary thought - Jack at Disneyland

:::its a small world after all:::


Icarus

Seems to be. Jack and Gia and Vicky goes to Disneyland, maybe?

From everything I have seen on the exteriors, however, they are the exact same width.

That's not uncommon. The Colt's model 1911 -- which was originally designed and chambered for the 45ACP cartridge -- is also chambered in 38 Super, 40 S&W, 9X21, 9X23, 10mm, and even 9mm. And probably other cartridges as well. All the differences are internal.

My main question on this issue has always been the spring strength, While I am sure a 40 would be strong enough for a 9mm, it may not be for the opposite. Also the spring itself may be too strong in the 9mm so that it would not let the slide go back and forth enough resulting in jams. This is actually a good topic for the glock forums ( of which I am not a member).

The recoil spring for the 9mm would be too weak for the 40S&W cartridge, and the spring for the 40 would be too heavy for the 9mm cartridge.

From my experience I cannot imagine the trigger pull being any lighter than the Glock 27, which almost has a hair trigger ( something I am not fond of ) despite the internal safety.

What internal safety? The Glocks I've seen had only a trigger block -- which is in the actual trigger itself -- as a safety. In my mind, that's not much of a safety, and that's why the NYPD had extra heavy triggers installed on the Glocks used by their officers -- after a number of officers had shot themselves because they placed their fingers on the trigger when drawing their guns.

Speaking of which, you have gotten me thinking. While it operates as an auto, what the hell would the Glock be considered.

It's an auto loader, just like any other auto loader.

The internal safety and complete lack of any exterior hammer would prevent it from being classified as a true double action, or at least in my eyes.

Has anybody ever said that the Glock is a double action? If so, I've never heard of it. The Glock doesn't even have a hammer -- internal or otherwise. What it does have is a "striker," much like the striker on a bolt action rifle.

I guess I should rephrase my question. Is the Kahr an automatic or a repeater. I am guessing from what you have said it is an auto.

You could call it an automatic repeater, but auto loader is what I call it/them -- automatic for short. Basically, they all function the same way. You fire a round and the recoil impulse causes the slide to move backward, which extracts the spent case from the barrel and ejects it from the gun, when the slide moves forward again, (by means of the recoil spring) it strips a round from the magazine and pushes it into the chamber. Then you have to release the trigger so that the internals can reset (there's a "disconnector" inside the gun which "disconnects" the trigger from the hammer or -- in the case of the Glock -- the striker) and you're ready to press the trigger again. So. It fires, ejects, and "automatically" loads another round into the chamber.

It's like calling your vehicle an automobile or a car. Both terms come from from the original "Automobile Carriage."

Wait, just found out for sure. To convert a Glock 26 to the specs of a Glock 27 you will need a complete Glock 27 slide assembly, a 40S&W trigger housing, and G27 magazine ( which is obvious, or so I would think). So apparently it is doable, just a little more complicated than I had been told, but not by much. Still wouldn't want to do it on the go, so to speak.

In short, you need everything but the frame, and even then, you need the "trigger housing" . . . whatever that is.

Of course you can always get a conversion kit and go down to a 22LR. Good for a day of practicing at the range I guess. Don't see the point as it is going to be nowhere near the same experience as firing a 9 or a 40.

There are .22 conversion kits for the Colt's 45 ACP as well. Not a big deal . . . unless you consider how much they cost. The "advantage to these .22 conversion kits is simply . . . cheap ammunition.

Ken V.

Is this gun for a pants pocket....jacket pocket? Isn't there a Derringer that is a 2 shot? That might fit the bill. But I'm not the expert on small guns....I like the big ones!

There are lots of 2-shot derringers on the market. Everything from .22 long rifle, to 45 ACP. Last Year, I rechambered a 45 ACP derringer so that it would shoot 45 Colt ammo. It kicks like a country Mule, but the owner likes it.

Ken V.

Pink and purple grips!!!? kep: :nonod:

Hemorrhoid blue.

Ken V.

OK - this is kinda a silly one - why can't he bring out the semmerling again? - they wouldnt be looking for it in LA

If he has to use it, and the bullets are recovered, they would be traced to the bullets recovered in the subway incident in HOSTS.

This would not be a good thing.

Ken V.

If he has to use it, and the bullets are recovered, they would be traced to the bullets recovered in the subway incident in HOSTS.

This would not be a good thing.

Ken V.

He could buy a different one. There's no link there.

There are lots of 2-shot derringers on the market. Everything from .22 long rifle, to 45 ACP. Last Year, I rechambered a 45 ACP derringer so that it would shoot 45 Colt ammo. It kicks like a country Mule, but the owner likes it.

Ken V.

I can imagine. I shot one that chambered a .357 mag. I don't know if I didn't hold it correctly, but my hand was useless for a while. Then again, there's not to many ways to hold a derringer. The .38 snake shot through the same pistol was much more tolerable.

I can imagine. I shot one that chambered a .357 mag. I don't know if I didn't hold it correctly, but my hand was useless for a while. Then again, there's not to many ways to hold a derringer. The .38 snake shot through the same pistol was much more tolerable.

I have one that's chambered in .22 Magnum, and I remember shooting it one time back in the late '60's when it was nearly dark. Somebody came up to me and asked if I was shooting a .44 Magnum -- it was so loud, and the muzzle flash was so bright.

I have another one chambered in 38 Special, and the recoil is fairly mild.

Ken V.