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Jack in LA - pocket carry - fpw - 08-14-2008
[SIZE="3"]Looks like Jack will have to visit LA in RJ-13 (once again, I don't have a working title) and he'll want a pocket carry for his short stay there. Suggestions? Nothing smaller than 9mm, preferably .40. [/SIZE]
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Kenji - 08-14-2008
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fpw Wrote:Looks like Jack will have to visit LA in RJ-13 (once again, I don't have a working title)[/SIZE]
To L.A.? Swell.
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fpw Wrote:and he'll want a pocket carry for his short stay there. Suggestions? Nothing smaller than 9mm, preferably .40.[/SIZE]
How about....pen gun?
milewinkgrin:
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Legion - 08-14-2008
fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]Looks like Jack will have to visit LA in RJ-13 (once again, I don't have a working title) and he'll want a pocket carry for his short stay there. Suggestions? Nothing smaller than 9mm, preferably .40. [/SIZE]
What about a revolver? I remember early in the series Abe asking jack about revolvers. Right now my main carry piece is a Taurus 357 snubbed nose. While I cannot find a pic of that, here is something that may be ideal for jack. Its in a 38. Notice the derringer next to it? That's the same as my back up piece, a five shot 22 long. Its the size of a toy but its damned effective. It will even fit in the small change pocket of a pair of levis.
Tina, my fiance, carries a smaller, older version of this. She often just carries it in her coat pocket. That shows you how lightweight they can be. Get Jack a small clip on holster for the inside front of his pants and those nasty Rakoshi will never know its there.
![[Image: Model_642_4_640.jpg]](http://www.snubnose.info/images/Model_642_4_640.jpg)
The S&W airweight series is amazing. They weigh practically nothing, models like the above Smith & Wesson Model 642 pack quite a punch ( especially if you carry +p rounds, which raise them almost to the punch of a 357 magnum round. ( make sure that this can use +P rounds, however, because they do not all take them. With the lightweight frame it is hard on the weapon so I would alternate my rounds.
Here's a link for the info on this model. http://www.snubnose.info/docs/m642.htm
The great thing about revolvers is that they do not jamb, unless of course, as jack showed you let your assailant get a grip on the cylinder, which I doubt Jack would do.
The recessed hammer on these also makes it so that they do not snag on your clothing when you draw them.
If you want a 40 your best bet would be a glock 27
![[Image: glock27-1.jpg]](http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:BotPFPXkv6QC3M:http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/glock27-1.jpg)
.But I warn you, this is BULKY for in your pocket carry. Doubt you're going to find a smaller more efficient 40 or even auto for that matter.
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Ken Valentine - 08-14-2008
fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]Looks like Jack will have to visit LA in RJ-13 (once again, I don't have a working title) and he'll want a pocket carry for his short stay there. Suggestions? Nothing smaller than 9mm, preferably .40. [/SIZE]Jacket pocket? Trousers? Either way, I'd recommend the Kahr MK-40 Micro (40 S&W.) It has a 3-inch barrel, is 5-3/8th inches long, 4-1/2 inches high, and 15/16ths of an inch wide. It weighs 23 ounces (unloaded) which is only one ounce more than the Walther PPK. And in power equivalency, it's equal to a snubbie revolver in 357 Magnum.
The action is very much like a Glock, except that it has a long trigger pull (like a double action revolver) instead of that little lock-out built into the trigger that the Glock has. The trigger pull is light and very smooth. The only bad thing I have to say about it is that it's a pain in the butt to disassemble. It comes apart just like the S&W Model 39, but with its heavy recoil spring, it's difficult to hold the slide back when you push out the dissassembly/slide-lock pin. And the pin is hard to push out as well.
It's a very reliable gun that works well in an ankle holster.
The magazine holds five rounds with a sixth round (safely) in the chamber, and it has a steel frame instead of plastic.
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Kenji - 08-14-2008
I've heard about this before. How about this?
http://www.swissminigun.com/
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Ken Valentine - 08-14-2008
I just did some measuring, and the K-40 Micro is a half inch longer, an inch taller and an eighth of an inch wider than the AMT 380 backup.
Ken V.
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Ken Valentine - 08-14-2008
Kenji Wrote:I've heard about this before. How about this?It sounds good Kenji, but the problem is that it fires a special 9-caliber (2.54 mm) rimfire ammunition. The smallest caliber ammunition I've ever seen is 17-caliber, (4.3 mm) and that was only in a centerfire rifle until Hornady came up with a 17-caliber rimfire magnum a few years ago.
http://www.swissminigun.com/
Ken V.
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Sigokat - 08-14-2008
Legion Wrote:The great thing about revolvers is that they do not jamb, unless of course, as jack showed you let your assailant get a grip on the cylinder, which I doubt Jack would do.
I used to own a Taurus .357 snubnose revolver as well. 2 1/2 in barrell.
I DID jamb it. The rounds were so powerful (I usually fired .38, but was firing .357 at the time) that the firing pin bent, thus jambing the cylinder and not allowing it to turn or even open.
I had to take the cylinder off...very very carefully...considering there was still at least 2 live rounds loaded.
Nice thing about Taurus is that they have a life time guarnatee. I got it fixed and returned in about a month, all for free.
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Ken Valentine - 08-14-2008
sigokat Wrote:I used to own a Taurus .357 snubnose revolver as well. 2 1/2 in barrell.Taurus is a nice gun. They're virtually identical to the S&W's -- both Smith & Wesson and Taurus were owned by the same consortium.
I DID jamb it. The rounds were so powerful (I usually fired .38, but was firing .357 at the time) that the firing pin bent, thus jambing the cylinder and not allowing it to turn or even open.
I had to take the cylinder off...very very carefully...considering there was still at least 2 live rounds loaded.
Nice thing about Taurus is that they have a life time guarnatee. I got it fixed and returned in about a month, all for free.
And I had a problem with a Smith model 65. (Stainless 38/357 with a 3-inch barrel.) Scott Miller can tell you about that one. It started to misbehave when he was shooting it. The cylinder wouldn't rotate. And I found out why when I got back home and completely tore it apart. I had fired so many rounds through it that the firing pin had worn when it rubbed against the hardened firing pin hole. This had let the primer cup flow back into the firing pin hole and prevented the cylinder from rotating.
Three dollars for another firing pin -- less then the cost of shipping it back to the factory.
Ken V.
Jack in LA - pocket carry - Legion - 08-14-2008
sigokat Wrote:I used to own a Taurus .357 snubnose revolver as well. 2 1/2 in barrell.
I DID jamb it. The rounds were so powerful (I usually fired .38, but was firing .357 at the time) that the firing pin bent, thus jambing the cylinder and not allowing it to turn or even open.
I had to take the cylinder off...very very carefully...considering there was still at least 2 live rounds loaded.
Nice thing about Taurus is that they have a life time guarnatee. I got it fixed and returned in about a month, all for free.
Wow. I have never heard of that. How often did you fire it? I take this one to the range maybe, if I am lucky once a month. Snubbies aren't range guns anyway.
Here's the Taurus I was referring to.
![[Image: DSCF0207.jpg]](http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k303/murdermouth/DSCF0207.jpg)
And here is a closer look.
![[Image: DSCF0211.jpg]](http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k303/murdermouth/DSCF0211.jpg)
Notice the completely recessed hammer? I have seen shaved hammers but never one so perfectly flat with the body. Its actually perfect for if you ever had to pistol whip somebody, as the recessed hammer makes for a great grip.