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Alan   06-22-2006, 02:23 AM
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I am taking the bus to work now and have a little extra time to read. I just finished rereading SIMS yesterday (even better the second time) and decided to reread Black Wind. I came across this early on today:


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On page 22 Matsuo talks about a blade forged from the metal of a sword given to the swordmaker by a wandering gaijin centuries ago. Was this a third sword owned by Glaeken or was this some other gaijin with a magical sword. Was this something planned for Nightworld but abandoned? Just curious.
Kenji   06-23-2006, 10:14 AM
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Alan Wrote:I am taking the bus to work now and have a little extra time to read. I just finished rereading SIMS yesterday (even better the second time) and decided to reread Black Wind. I came across this early on today:


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On page 22 Matsuo talks about a blade forged from the metal of a sword given to the swordmaker by a wandering gaijin centuries ago. Was this a third sword owned by Glaeken or was this some other gaijin with a magical sword. Was this something planned for Nightworld but abandoned? Just curious.



*****Spoiler*****


**********Containing Harbingers spoiler**********






I checked about that sword. In Japanese edition, it's on page 54. Glaeken = gaijin has pretty big possibility.

Now I'm reading Harbingers, and on page 112, Oculus mentioned May third 1941 and Pearl Harbor. So I guessed Black Wind was raised by Otherness. Am I right?
fpw   06-23-2006, 10:34 AM
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Alan Wrote:S

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On page 22 Matsuo talks about a blade forged from the metal of a sword given to the swordmaker by a wandering gaijin centuries ago. Was this a third sword owned by Glaeken or was this some other gaijin with a magical sword. Was this something planned for Nightworld but abandoned? Just curious.

[SIZE="3"]Good pickup. It was simply a reference done for my pleasure and for people like you -- to make you ask just that question.[/SIZE]

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Dave   06-23-2006, 10:35 AM
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/***** Spoilers as above *****/

Since I first read Black Wind I always wanted it to be a part of the Adversary Cycle. And with the quotes in Harbingers it seems it could be worming its way in.

Good spot on the swords, I mentioned something similar a fews years back. With the rewrite of Nightworld I can but dream a 'third' sword is mentioned Smile

Dave
BrettM   06-23-2006, 02:56 PM
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Dave Wrote:/***** Spoilers as above *****/
Good spot on the swords, I mentioned something similar a fews years back. With the rewrite of Nightworld I can but dream a 'third' sword is mentioned Smile
/***** Repeat of spoilers ****/

Why postulate a third sword when two will do? Suppose the hilt of the second sword had been lost (or stolen, perhaps as some plot of Rasalom's), and Glaeken simply dropped off the now-useless blade in Japan. Maybe the hilt was even lost/stolen in S.E. Asia at the time the Dat Tay Vao was released, and went to India, where it was forged into the necklaces. Maybe R arranged to have it stolen at the time the Rakoshi were made, knowing it could protect the keepers from their charges. Two pieces of the sword, both ending up within spitting distance of S.E. Asia in opposite directions, with the DTV left in-between.

Let's dream big and pretend that all of this will be explained in the Keep Prequel! Smile

Brett

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cobalt   06-23-2006, 04:29 PM
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I always wondered whether Jack's father had an episode with the Otherness during his war years. Maybe he called it something else. Any ideas?

EWMAN
Maggers   06-23-2006, 06:52 PM
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cobalt79 Wrote:I always wondered whether Jack's father had an episode with the Otherness during his war years. Maybe he called it something else. Any ideas?

Oooh....I see a prequel to the prequel. Big Grin

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KRW   06-23-2006, 07:49 PM
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Maggers Wrote:Oooh....I see a prequel to the prequel. Big Grin

No, a sequel to the prequel!Wink


Ken
KRW   06-23-2006, 08:06 PM
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BrettM Wrote:/***** Repeat of spoilers ****/

Why postulate a third sword when two will do? Suppose the hilt of the second sword had been lost (or stolen, perhaps as some plot of Rasalom's), and Glaeken simply dropped off the now-useless blade in Japan. Maybe the hilt was even lost/stolen in S.E. Asia at the time the Dat Tay Vao was released, and went to India, where it was forged into the necklaces. Maybe R arranged to have it stolen at the time the Rakoshi were made, knowing it could protect the keepers from their charges. Two pieces of the sword, both ending up within spitting distance of S.E. Asia in opposite directions, with the DTV left in-between.

Let's dream big and pretend that all of this will be explained in the Keep Prequel! Smile

Brett

Better yet, what if the first sword had shattered like the second did in "The Keep? We know it only takes a small piece to forge a new one. Know suppose a small piece had been discovered, but instead of the "little folk" (the ones that knew how to remake the sword for Glaeken) getting this material and forging the sword, it was an old Japanese sword maker. He could have folded the sword two thousand times and tempered it, not knowing the true power the material held, but knowing when he was done, that it was speciel. He probably would have used humans to cool the blade after forging it (the human body temperature is perfect for that). Then the blade could never be sheathed after it had been drawn unless it had drawn blood.


Ken
fpw   06-23-2006, 10:45 PM
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[SIZE="3"]Didn't I have somewhere that it was forged from metal that fell from the sky?[/SIZE]

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