Brian Wrote:If Jacob was using the form of the dog Vincent, wouldn't that mean that the dog was dead? Now that Jacob is dead, Vincent wouldn't be with Rose and her husband on the beach any longer. I think?? LOL
Vincent might be dead, but I don't really believe that. He was either let out of his kennel by someone intentionally or a fortuitous chain of events led to some airline employee either not securing the kennel door thoroughly or bumping it so that it wasn't fastened completely. Either way, it would then be plausible that the kennel door opened on impact or Vincent was able to push it open when the plane crashed. Let's assume that however it happened, Vincent did indeed survive the crash and was able to swim ashore.
It also isn't necessarily the case that he would need to be dead for Jacob to take Vincent's shape in order to interact with the Losties. At this point we don't really know if Jacob has been doing this at all, with Vincent or anyone else.
Again, let's assume for simplicity that both Christian (Jack's father) and Locke really are dead.
We know (or at least think we know) that the MIB is now taking the form of Locke, but not his physical body because we saw both UnLocke and Locke's body in the same scene.
When Christian spoke to Locke in the cabin and at the Frozen Donkey Wheel he claimed to speak for Jacob. But I don't think we can believe that because what he told Locke to do set up the events that led to Locke being killed and allowing the MIB to take Locke's form and thus manipulate Ben into killing Jacob.
So it seems that the two known cases of the dead being used as vessels, it appears to be only the MIB doing so.
Maybe Jacob doesn't need his vessel to be dead in order to use it. That would fit with the apparent good vs evil paradigm we have with Jacob vs MIB.
In thinking about this more, I can see three possibilities for how Jacob might "become" Vincent.
1. Jacob is able to assume Vincent's shape which has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the real Vincent. So long as they aren't in the same place at the same time, no one would ever know there are sometimes two Vincents around.
2. Jacob is able to project part of his consciousness into Vincent's mind and take control for a time. Vincent may or may not be aware of what's going on, but it doesn't hurt him any.
3. Jacob himself is walking around amongst the Losties but they can't see or hear him. Vincent CAN see and hear him and he does whatever Jacob tells him to do - lead Hurley to the DHARMA van, pull the blanket off the not-really-dead Nikki and Paulo, etc.
Or I might be completely wrong about all of this and Vincent is just a dog. A LUCKY dog, but just a dog. :p
But that doesn't feel right. Maybe Vincent is connected to Jacob. Maybe he's connected to the island itself or some other yet-unknown entity behind the events we've seen so far.
Whatever it may be, I'm convinced that there is something special about Vincent. We shall see.
Aprilis Wrote:He is still listed in the credits ... an article in Entertainment Weekly said that he will be back despite the sexual harrassment charges filed by a crew member on the set.
Maybe he's on Widmore's sub? :eek: