Jacket pocket? Trousers? Either way, I'd recommend the Kahr MK-40 Micro (40 S&W.) It has a 3-inch barrel, is 5-3/8th inches long, 4-1/2 inches high, and 15/16ths of an inch wide. It weighs 23 ounces (unloaded) which is only one ounce more than the Walther PPK. And in power equivalency, it's equal to a snubbie revolver in 357 Magnum.

The action is very much like a Glock, except that it has a long trigger pull (like a double action revolver) instead of that little lock-out built into the trigger that the Glock has. The trigger pull is light and very smooth. The only bad thing I have to say about it is that it's a pain in the butt to disassemble. It comes apart just like the S&W Model 39, but with its heavy recoil spring, it's difficult to hold the slide back when you push out the dissassembly/slide-lock pin. And the pin is hard to push out as well.

It's a very reliable gun that works well in an ankle holster.

The magazine holds five rounds with a sixth round (safely) in the chamber, and it has a steel frame instead of plastic.

Isn't that a single action, tho?

One benefit of the Glock is the interchangability ( is that even a word? ) of the barrels for the 26 and 27, so not only can you switch your ammo if you feel the need for more or less power, but you can also dispose of the barrel in case of having to use it you don't lose the whole weapon and this can be done on the spot.

My question for Paul is does he literally mean a "Pocket" carry?

Isn't that a single action, tho?

It has a striker system very much like the Glock. I would classify the Glock as being sorta single action in that it has a very short trigger pull. The Kahr has a long trigger pull very much like a double action revolver, only much lighter.

One benefit of the Glock is the interchangability ( is that even a word? ) of the barrels for the 26 and 27, so not only can you switch your ammo if you feel the need for more or less power, but you can also dispose of the barrel in case of having to use it you don't lose the whole weapon and this can be done on the spot.

Have you actually tried it? The model 26 is a 9mm, and the 27 is chambered in 40 S&W. The barrels may be interchangeable in the sense that one might possibly fit into the slide of the other, but unless Glock has some kind of magic slide, with a quick-change breech-face and extractor, they won't function. The 40 S&W won't fit into the breech-face machined for a 9mm, (which means that the slide won't close) and the 9mm has too small a case head to function in a slide machined for a 40 S&W -- the extractor won't reliably (if at all) reach the extractor groove to pull the case out of the barrel.

Then there's the extractor-relief-cut in the barrel which will probably not be the same for the different calibers.

And the magazines won't function properly. I don't believe that a "40" mag will actually fit in the 9mm gun -- the 40 mags are wider. And if you try to put a 9mm mag in a 40, they'll, at best, rattle around in the frame -- if they don't actually fall out of the gun. I'll have to dig out some Glock mags and check them, but I don't believe you can load a 9mm mag with 40's, and the the 40 mag may have lips that are to wide to function in a 9mm slide.

My question for Paul is does he literally mean a "Pocket" carry?

I'm sure he does, he was very specific, having mentioned "pocket carry" in both the title of the thread . . . and his post.

Ken V.

It has a striker system very much like the Glock. I would classify the Glock as being sorta single action in that it has a very short trigger pull. The Kahr has a long trigger pull very much like a double action revolver, only much lighter.

Have you actually tried it? The model 26 is a 9mm, and the 27 is chambered in 40 S&W. The barrels may be interchangeable in the sense that one might possibly fit into the slide of the other, but unless Glock has some kind of magic slide, with a quick-change breech-face and extractor, they won't function. The 40 S&W won't fit into the breech-face machined for a 9mm, (which means that the slide won't close) and the 9mm has too small a case head to function in a slide machined for a 40 S&W -- the extractor won't reliably (if at all) reach the extractor groove to pull the case out of the barrel.

Then there's the extractor-relief-cut in the barrel which will probably not be the same for the different calibers.

And the magazines won't function properly. I don't believe that a "40" mag will actually fit in the 9mm gun -- the 40 mags are wider. And if you try to put a 9mm mag in a 40, they'll, at best, rattle around in the frame -- if they don't actually fall out of the gun. I'll have to dig out some Glock mags and check them, but I don't believe you can load a 9mm mag with 40's, and the the 40 mag may have lips that are to wide to function in a 9mm slide.
I'm sure he does, he was very specific, having mentioned "pocket carry" in both the title of the thread . . . and his post.

Ken V.

Not myself. Tina's father ( a gun enthusiast is putting it lightly) read it awhile back and has been ranting about it ever since. I asked the guys at my shop and they said they've heard tell of it, but not they themselves.

From everything I have seen on the exteriors, however, they are the exact same width. My main question on this issue has always been the spring strength, While I am sure a 40 would be strong enough for a 9mm, it may not be for the opposite. Also the spring itself may be too strong in the 9mm so that it would not let the slide go back and forth enough resulting in jams. This is actually a good topic for the glock forums ( of which I am not a member).

From my experience I cannot imagine the trigger pull being any lighter than the Glock 27, which almost has a hair trigger ( something I am not fond of ) despite the internal safety.

Speaking of which, you have gotten me thinking. While it operates as an auto, what the hell would the Glock be considered. The internal safety and complete lack of any exterior hammer would prevent it from being classified as a true double action, or at least in my eyes.

I guess I should rephrase my question. Is the Kahr an automatic or a repeater. I am guessing from what you have said it is an auto.

Wait, just found out for sure. To convert a Glock 26 to the specs of a Glock 27 you will need a complete Glock 27 slide assembly, a 40S&W trigger housing, and G27 magazine ( which is obvious, or so I would think). So apparently it is doable, just a little more complicated than I had been told, but not by much. Still wouldn't want to do it on the go, so to speak.

Of course you can always get a conversion kit and go down to a 22LR. Good for a day of practicing at the range I guess. Don't see the point as it is going to be nowhere near the same experience as firing a 9 or a 40.

Is this gun for a pants pocket....jacket pocket? Isn't there a Derringer that is a 2 shot? That might fit the bill. But I'm not the expert on small guns....I like the big ones!

Wow. I have never heard of that. How often did you fire it? I take this one to the range maybe, if I am lucky once a month. Snubbies aren't range guns anyway.

Here's the Taurus I was referring to.

Too bad that cute little thing isn't really purple/pink. :p Jack could wear a matching pink/purple outfit!

Too bad that cute little thing isn't really purple/pink. :p Jack could wear a matching pink/purple outfit!

Thats the reflection of some blankets. And I've never met anybody before to call a 357 magnum cute.

Thats the reflection of some blankets. And I've never met anybody before to call a 357 magnum cute.

and if customized with rhinestones?

OK, OK, I shaddap...

Thats the reflection of some blankets. And I've never met anybody before to call a 357 magnum cute.

Here's some pretty ones... http://www.taurususa.com/products/gunsel...series=SE1

Pink and purple grips!!!? kep: :nonod:

[SIZE="3"]Looks like Jack will have to visit LA in RJ-13 (once again, I don't have a working title) and he'll want a pocket carry for his short stay there. Suggestions? Nothing smaller than 9mm, preferably .40. [/SIZE]

ooh! ooh! Pick mine! Pick mine! This is what I have and I love it! For some reason it especially likes the starfire ammo.

TAURUS ULTRA-LITE MODEL 85 .38 Spl. REVOLVER



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Capacity: 5
Barrel Length: 2"
Action: DA/SA
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Weight: 17 oz
Construction: Ultralite-Alloy
Frame: Small
Front Sight: Fixed
Rear Sight: Fixed Trigger Type: Smooth
Length: 6-1/2''
Width: 1.346"
Height: 4.28"
Rate of Twist: 1:16"
Grooves: 5
Safety: Transfer Bar

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