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Wapitikev Wrote:FPW: so you would rather we use the Gauntlet edition as canon?
[SIZE="3"]The latest edition should always be considered the definitive. I've usually found errors (or had tem pointed out to me) in the hardcover that I've corrected in the pb.[/SIZE]
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fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]The latest edition should always be considered the definitive. I've usually found errors (or had tem pointed out to me) in the hardcover that I've corrected in the pb.[/SIZE]
10-4.
-Wapitikev
Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):
Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis
On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Well, I've finished the 1st draft of the "Demonsong" Wiki article (text only) and I am sending it to AlvinFox for editing. I can't post it here due to the 1000 character restriction (another problem with posting them here for archiving). It is 11,554 characters (counting spaces).
I'll post it here in multiple sections for everyone to tear apart when we're done with it.
FYI, the Headings in the article are:
(general intro)
Plot Introduction
Plot Summary
List of Characters (in order of appearance)
Publishing History
Interconnections
Anagrams for Rasalom
Thanx to Bones for suggesting the List of Characters and Interconnections headings.
-Wapitikev
I'll post it here in multiple sections for everyone to tear apart when we're done with it.
FYI, the Headings in the article are:
(general intro)
Plot Introduction
Plot Summary
List of Characters (in order of appearance)
Publishing History
Interconnections
Anagrams for Rasalom
Thanx to Bones for suggesting the List of Characters and Interconnections headings.
-Wapitikev
This post was last modified: 05-26-2008, 06:40 AM by Wapitikev.
Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):
Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis
On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Has anyone here who has read (or written) Demonsong thought that [SPOILER]the pit in the Amphitheater was a gateway similar to the ones in Conspiracies, Gateways and Nightworld?[/SPOILER]
Wapitikev Wrote:Well, I've finished the 1st draft of the "Demonsong" Wiki article (text only) and I am sending it to AlvinFox for editing. I can't post it here due to the 1000 character restriction (another problem with posting them here for archiving). It is 11,554 characters (counting spaces).
I'll post it here in multiple sections for everyone to tear apart when we're done with it.
FYI, the Headings in the article are:
(general intro)
Plot Introduction
Plot Summary
List of Characters (in order of appearance)
Publishing History
Interconnections
Anagrams for Rasalom
Thanx to Bones for suggesting the List of Characters and Interconnections headings.
-Wapitikev
I'm gonna sue you for copyright :yikes:
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bones weep tedium Wrote:I'm gonna sue you for copyright :yikes:
Bring it on, friendo.
Heh.
-Wapitikev
Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):
Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis
On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
AlvinFox Wrote:Has anyone here who has read (or written) Demonsong thought that [SPOILER]the pit in the Amphitheater was a gateway similar to the ones in Conspiracies, Gateways and Nightworld?[/SPOILER]
I briefly thought about that as a connection but discarded it.
While there is nothing written that prevents the Amphitheatre from being a portal (it probably is, in fact) I did not equate it with Conspiracies or even with Gateways (haven't read Nightworld yet) because it didn't seem to share the same physical charactreristics as the other holes...swirling blackness, no suction into the vortex, nothing expicitly came out of it, etc., and we didn't actually [B]see[B] it. We just saw mist. We don't know what is at the bottom. In Conspiracies, in Gateways and, I assume, in Nightworld, we are explicitly told there is a hole and that the Otherness is at the bottom.
While it is logical that the Demons and Rasalom's new body must have gone somewhere when they fell into the mist...(so there likely was a portal there under the mist)...and they all must have come from somewhere to begin with, I wasn't willing to explicitly say that there was a portal there when we didn't actually see one.
I suggest that, if we do add a "portal to the Otherness" connection, that we make it a speculative mention, due to its non-appearance.
-Wapitikev
This post was last modified: 05-27-2008, 04:16 PM by Wapitikev.
Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):
Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis
On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Interesting theory Alvin.
I agree.
Stephanie
Wapitikev Wrote:...I suggest that, if we do add a "portal to the Otherness" connection, that we make it a speculative mention, due to its non-appearance...
I agree.
Stephanie
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Wapitikev Wrote:I briefly thought about that as a connection but discarded it.
While there is nothing written that prevents the Amphitheatre from being a portal (it probably is, in fact) I did not equate it with Conspiracies or even with Gateways (haven't read Nightworld yet) because it didn't seem to share the same physical charactreristics as the other holes...swirling blackness, no suction into the vortex, nothing expicitly came out of it, etc., and we didn't actually see[B] it. We just saw mist. We don't know what is at the bottom. In Conspiracies, in Gateways and, I assume, in Nightworld, we are explicitly told there is a hole and that the Otherness is at the bottom.
While it is logical that the Demons and Rasalom's new body must have gone somewhere when they fell into the mist...(so there likely was a portal there under the mist)...and they all must have come from somewhere to begin with, I wasn't willing to explicitly say that there was a portal there when we didn't actually see one.
I suggest that, if we do add a "portal to the Otherness" connection, that we make it a speculative mention, due to its non-appearance.
-Wapitikev
Well, AvinFox and I have been E-mailing each other regarding the "Demonsong" Wiki and an interesting detail has come to light.
I am working onthe Original DAW edition and he has the Gauntlet Chapbook edition...Alvin had asked about the Otherness portal because his edition has a reference to one...whereas mine does not.
In the DAW edition, at the climax of the confrontation with the Choir of Chaos mine says: "One by one, then in groups, and finally in a hellish rain, they followed the embryo."
The Chapbook that Alvin has says: "One by one, then in groups, and finally in a hellish rain, they followed the embryo [B]back to the hell of their origin."
So, when I said above that we don't see what's below the mist, I was (unknowingly) wrong...Alvin's edition clearly states that there was a portal to the Otherness under that mist and both the embryo and the demons fell through it.
If anyone has the Little Beige Book, please verify that Alvin's version is the same as yours.
In the meantime, I'll assume that it is and we've agreed that I'll add a reference to an otherness portal in the connections section.
When I finish the small edits that Alvin had, I'll post the Wiki in a number of sections (it won't all fit in one post).
The wait is almost over.
-Wapitikev
Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):
Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis
On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout
Wapitikev Wrote:Well, AvinFox and I have been E-mailing each other regarding the "Demonsong" Wiki and an interesting detail has come to light.
I am working onthe Original DAW edition and he has the Gauntlet Chapbook edition...Alvin had asked about the Otherness portal because his edition has a reference to one...whereas mine does not.
In the DAW edition, at the climax of the confrontation with the Choir of Chaos mine says: "One by one, then in groups, and finally in a hellish rain, they followed the embryo."
The Chapbook that Alvin has says: "One by one, then in groups, and finally in a hellish rain, they followed the embryo back to the hell of their origin."
So, when I said above that we don't see what's below the mist, I was (unknowingly) wrong...Alvin's edition clearly states that there was a portal to the Otherness under that mist and both the embryo and the demons fell through it.
If anyone has the Little Beige Book, please verify that Alvin's version is the same as yours.
In the meantime, I'll assume that it is and we've agreed that I'll add a reference to an otherness portal in the connections section.
When I finish the small edits that Alvin had, I'll post the Wiki in a number of sections (it won't all fit in one post).
The wait is almost over.
-Wapitikev
...I'm also wondering, now, what else changed in the newer editions...
-Wapitikev
Axioms Jack seems to live by (inadvertantly or not):
Why he does what he does: "I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day, I could stop doing it. Today, however, isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either." Bruce Wayne, Identity Crisis
On Rasalom: "Water's wet, the sky is blue...and good old Satan Claus, Jimmy...he's out there...and he's just gettin' stronger." Joe Hallenbeck, The Last Boyscout