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Maggers   03-20-2008, 11:59 AM
Paul R Wrote:I think there is a definite sense of... tries to think of a way to reply without giving away what you've just written re the game and The Dark Tower... fails...
Yes, I more or less agree.

You guys may be on to something here. Maybe that's why Richard Alpert never ages. But how does anyone leave the Island then? OK, my brain hurts. This is soooo confusing. But fun.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
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Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

bones weep tedium   03-20-2008, 12:35 PM
Maggers Wrote:Have you seen the "bunny" training video? It's officially called the Orchid training video and it has been referenced many times by me on this thread and someone posted a link to it on this thread. It had been available on the abc.com/lost site. It is also available in the Season 3 boxed DVD set.

I posted previously that I think there is a possibility that Kate's Aaron may be like the second bunny in the video, not quite Claire's Aaron. It's not a clone; the writers have said a million times there are no clones on the Island. It's something different having to do with time (maybe) and the other strange properties of the Island. That's what I thought as soon as I saw Jack's reluctance to see Kate's Aaron. Maybe Jack couldn't stomach such a thing, a duplicate (?) Aaron who can never be anywhere near the real (Claire's) Aaron, which is another reason why Kate wouldn't want to go back to the Island.

Maybe for some reason if Jack gets too close to Aaron there'd be unpleasant side-effects . . . . ?


I accidentally dropped a load of worthless change in the street. I was going to just leave it there but a burly policeman lumbered towards me and said, "You'd better pick that up, son."

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Maggers   03-20-2008, 02:24 PM
bones weep tedium Wrote:Maybe for some reason if Jack gets too close to Aaron there'd be unpleasant side-effects . . . . ?

Well, in the video, they kept yelling to keep the bunnies apart (seemingly identical bunnies) after the second bunny appeared. It seemed the whole room shook and rocked like a small earthquake had hit.

The people holding the bunnies didn't have a problem, though I don't think they showed anyone actually picking up the second, duplicate bunny (or what appeared to be a duplicate bunny, or a time-transported bunny).

I don't know why Jack would have unpleasant side effects by getting too close to Kate's Aaron, unless he is just morally squeamish about having a not-quite-right-child around. That is, if my suggested scenario is even accurate, which it probably isn't knowing LOST.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

bones weep tedium   03-20-2008, 08:09 PM
Maggers Wrote:Well, in the video, they kept yelling to keep the bunnies apart (seemingly identical bunnies) after the second bunny appeared. It seemed the whole room shook and rocked like a small earthquake had hit.

The people holding the bunnies didn't have a problem, though I don't think they showed anyone actually picking up the second, duplicate bunny (or what appeared to be a duplicate bunny, or a time-transported bunny).

I don't know why Jack would have unpleasant side effects by getting too close to Kate's Aaron, unless he is just morally squeamish about having a not-quite-right-child around. That is, if my suggested scenario is even accurate, which it probably isn't knowing LOST.

I was thinking it might be something ludicrous, like Aaron goes in a time warp and a young Christian Shepard finds him and raises him as his own son . . . in that ridiculous (yet not beyond the writers of Lost's mindf*cking mentality) then Jack holding Aaron would be like the two bunnies touching.

I wonder what would happen if the two bunnies did meet? Would it be like what happened to the baddie at the end of Timecop (they both died horribly) or would it be like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters (every atom in the universe simultaneously explodes at the speed of light)?

Hopefully we'll find out soon!! Wink


I accidentally dropped a load of worthless change in the street. I was going to just leave it there but a burly policeman lumbered towards me and said, "You'd better pick that up, son."

I hate coppers.

[Image: smile-test.gif]"DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH.
LIBERTY IS A WELL-ARMED LAMB CONTESTING THE VOTE."
Maggers   03-20-2008, 11:05 PM
OMG! What an episode!

OK, I surrender. Kate's Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6. They have all been revealed....Aaron, Kate, Jack, Hurley, Sayid, Sun.

More later when I've had time to digest that episode.... Phew!

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

jimbow8   03-20-2008, 11:21 PM
Oh, Sayid, what have you done?!?! :eek:

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
jimbow8   03-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Aprilis Wrote:lostpedia reports
1 - that Aaron is Claire's Aaron
2 - that only 5 of the Oceanic 6 are confirmed
They've now updated it. It now includes Aaron. I think they wanted to be safe because Aaron was never explicitly mentioned as one of the six.

Quote:Also I was thinking and we dont know if the person in the coffin is one of the oceanic 6.

and also a guy at work gave me this link
http://www.lost-tv.com/transcripts/
I've never assumed that it was. I still think it's Michael or Locke.

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As soon as they stopped, I knew that the first person was going to be killed, but the second one took me off guard. Of course we can't assume that either one of them is dead .... yet.
This post was last modified: 03-20-2008, 11:27 PM by jimbow8.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Maggers   03-21-2008, 12:41 AM
jimbow8 Wrote:I've never assumed that it was. I still think it's Michael or Locke.
I agree. Coffin person is Michael or Locke.


SPOILERS....................








Quote:As soon as they stopped, I knew that the first person was going to be killed, but the second one took me off guard. Of course we can't assume that either one of them is dead .... yet.
I totally forgot that the trailers and teasers for this week's episode kept saying "someone ... will ... be ... killed." I was so caught up in the episode, I forgot all about that. And then, as you said, Jim, the trio stopped in the jungle and I knew, as Carl did, that something bad would happen.

Danielle, FINALLY, after 16 years gets a change of clothes only to have them ruined. Oh man, I was upset by that. I like Danielle. I liked her in blue. It brought out her eyes. I'm serious. I hope that it's not what it looks like, but somehow I think not. I think what we saw was real and that Alex is totally alone. Ben wanted that. You saw how he looked at Alex when Carl had his arm around her waist. And Ben was probably jealous of Danielle, too.

After last week's episode and Ben's outburst with Juliet, it is clear that he is a lunatic, especially when it comes to the women in his life. Man, has he got mommy issues. If he can't have them, no one can. I suspect that Ben is behind the shootings tonight, the shootings that left Alex alone and dependent on Ben. That's how Ben likes his women... with no one else to turn to and dependent on him for their survival.

I DON'T TRUST ANYTHING THAT BEN SAYS. NOTHING. NOTHING!

Ok, so that said, who do we believe? Ben, when he says that the staged plane wreck and dead bodies at the bottom of the ocean was all Widmore's idea. Or Widmore, who says Ben did it.

I'd like to go with Widmore because I don't believe a thing out of Ben's mouth. But somehow, that seems too easy........

Oh, and hey! What about the Island Monster Noise that Michael heard just before Libby's ghost (or whatever) appeared in the engine room to tell him not to do it. Say what?

I've got more compassion for Michael now that he's wracked with guilt and wants nothing more than to die by his own hand. He truly has been to hell, but he's not quite back. I think he's going to stay in Hades a while longer.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

jimbow8   03-21-2008, 12:09 PM
Maggers Wrote:I agree. Coffin person is Michael or Locke.


SPOILERS....................









I totally forgot that the trailers and teasers for this week's episode kept saying "someone ... will ... be ... killed." I was so caught up in the episode, I forgot all about that. And then, as you said, Jim, the trio stopped in the jungle and I knew, as Carl did, that something bad would happen.

Danielle, FINALLY, after 16 years gets a change of clothes only to have them ruined. Oh man, I was upset by that. I like Danielle. I liked her in blue. It brought out her eyes. I'm serious. I hope that it's not what it looks like, but somehow I think not. I think what we saw was real and that Alex is totally alone. Ben wanted that. You saw how he looked at Alex when Carl had his arm around her waist. And Ben was probably jealous of Danielle, too.

After last week's episode and Ben's outburst with Juliet, it is clear that he is a lunatic, especially when it comes to the women in his life. Man, has he got mommy issues. If he can't have them, no one can. I suspect that Ben is behind the shootings tonight, the shootings that left Alex alone and dependent on Ben. That's how Ben likes his women... with no one else to turn to and dependent on him for their survival.

I DON'T TRUST ANYTHING THAT BEN SAYS. NOTHING. NOTHING!

Ok, so that said, who do we believe? Ben, when he says that the staged plane wreck and dead bodies at the bottom of the ocean was all Widmore's idea. Or Widmore, who says Ben did it.

I'd like to go with Widmore because I don't believe a thing out of Ben's mouth. But somehow, that seems too easy........

Oh, and hey! What about the Island Monster Noise that Michael heard just before Libby's ghost (or whatever) appeared in the engine room to tell him not to do it. Say what?

I've got more compassion for Michael now that he's wracked with guilt and wants nothing more than to die by his own hand. He truly has been to hell, but he's not quite back. I think he's going to stay in Hades a while longer.

I also had compassion for Michael, though I'm not sure I ever TOTALLY despised him since I understood that all of his decisions were made with Walt's interest in mind (not an excuse for killing, just understandable reasoning). He's working on redemption, but as you say he still has a long way to go.

Ben definitely is a sociopath, but I'm still kinda hoping he will turn out to be "the good guy" (see my earlier post). Is Ben behind the shootings? All of the freighter people on the island are accounted for, right? Or have other people snuck off the ship to the island? Remember the captain was beating crew for leaving the ship? Maybe at some point they dropped off another crew member or two. :confused:

Still, though, the ONE thing that shocked me the most this episode was Sayid "outing" Michael to the captain. Sayid is still SO pissed at Michael, that I think he just made a very bad move that's going to have VERY bad repurcussions, imho.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Maggers   03-21-2008, 12:36 PM
jimbow8 Wrote:Ben definitely is a sociopath, but I'm still kinda hoping he will turn out to be "the good guy" (see my earlier post).
Michael Emerson also believes that Ben will ultimately be shown as a good guy. He says he has no more idea than we do, because he only sees the scripts as they are written, nothing ahead of time.

Quote:Is Ben behind the shootings? All of the freighter people on the island are accounted for, right? Or have other people snuck off the ship to the island? Remember the captain was beating crew for leaving the ship? Maybe at some point they dropped off another crew member or two. :confused:
That's possible. Now that I think about it, the helicopter had taken off on another mission in the last episode, a mission that Sayid asked about and but was brushed off. But I still think Ben sent Alex with Carl and Danielle in the hopes that someone else would do away with Carl and Danielle.

Quote:Still, though, the ONE thing that shocked me the most this episode was Sayid "outing" Michael to the captain. Sayid is still SO pissed at Michael, that I think he just made a very bad move that's going to have VERY bad repurcussions, imho.
I didn't quite see that coming, though I can understand why Sayid did it. I agree, I don't think any good will come of it. In fact, I think we are seeing the beginning of Sayid's post-Island indentured servitude with Ben.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

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