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Barry Lee Dejasu   07-21-2004, 10:28 PM
#1
Raise your hand (or...just post something here) if you're gonna be patient and WAIT for Nightworld to come out in its revised form, and not read the current "alternate ending" that it is.

*I raise my hand, ready to take on a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry quiet response from the RJ message board*








...or maybe that was a stupid question. I just want to see if I truly am alone in this.

"...and your last thought is that you have become a noise...a thin, nameless noise among all these others...howling in the empty dark room"
--Ulver, "Nowhere/Catastrophe"
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catman9   07-21-2004, 11:55 PM
#2
I debated this last week and took the plunge. It was well worth it. Minor edits will not make Night World an effective link to the Jack books. The Adversary cycle as a 6 book stand alone is a masterwork. Read it and enjoy.

After you've put it down and savored the fine pleasure of a well thought out concept beautifully executed, join me in cajoling/begging our author and host to create another masterwork. If anyone can keep the old school happy by keeping the Adversary sequence intact (with minor edits to update/fix anachronisms) and can still find a way to give Jack a real opportunity to have a parallel or compimentary climax (has to be in another book, possibly a prequel), FPW could do it. If he wants to.

Note to FPW - faster please.
Noelie   07-22-2004, 03:02 AM
#3
I haven't read Nightworld yet. Not really because I'm holding out, I just haven't gotten around to it. Big Grin
Dave   07-22-2004, 06:30 AM
#4
Barry Lee Dejasu Wrote:Raise your hand (or...just post something here) if you're gonna be patient and WAIT for Nightworld to come out in its revised form, and not read the current "alternate ending" that it is.

I read it when first published, so Jack's further adventures are just more filling inside the cake.

The great thing, which I think is now lost among new readers, is the unexpected joining of these different stories (The Keep, The Tomb, The Touch) into something greater. It blew my mind.

I don't expect many changes in Nightworld, and won't you ever wonder what it was like in it's original form?

Dave
Ken Valentine   07-22-2004, 08:20 AM
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Dave Wrote:I read it when first published, so Jack's further adventures are just more filling inside the cake.

The great thing, which I think is now lost among new readers, is the unexpected joining of these different stories (The Keep, The Tomb, The Touch) into something greater. It blew my mind.

I don't expect many changes in Nightworld, and won't you ever wonder what it was like in it's original form?

Dave

Wellll . . . the first one I read was THE KEEP, followed by THE TOMB, and then NIGHT WORLD. While reading NIGHT WORLD, I remember thinking, "Who are all these other people? What are their stories?" THE TOUCH, REBORN, and REPRISAL, were out of print at the time, so I haunted used book stores. I found two of them, but couldn't find a copy of REPRISAL until last year when I finally got a computer and onto the web.

I for one am looking forward to the new NIGHT WORLD, just to see what the changes are.

Ken V.
Barry Lee Dejasu   07-22-2004, 08:23 AM
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Dave Wrote:I don't expect many changes in Nightworld, and won't you ever wonder what it was like in it's original form?

I will, and I do; I plan on reading the original sometime. See, here's my reasoning.

Even though Nightworld is already out, and even though it features Jack in it already, the new cycle of how Jack's world is leading inexorably to this end makes it like Nightworld (and Reprisal, for that matter) hasn't happened yet. That said, I am treating my reading of the RJ/AC cycles as if Nightworld doesn't even exist yet. It's not like George Lucas had no plans for Episodes I, II, and III when he was working on A New Hope; in other words, he knew, and made it obvious, that there'd have to be an arc leading from the beginning to that "end" at some point. However, with the RJ/AC cycle, people became such big fans of RJ, FPW had to re-write his original, shorter plot; he had to write his own "Episodes I-III," if you will.

Because this is all basically the equivalent of a massive editing job, I want to wait for the final draft before I read the rough.

Can anyone understand that?

And I guess I truly am the only fan who is going to wait on purpose.

"...and your last thought is that you have become a noise...a thin, nameless noise among all these others...howling in the empty dark room"
--Ulver, "Nowhere/Catastrophe"
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jimbow8   07-22-2004, 09:40 AM
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Dave Wrote:The great thing, which I think is now lost among new readers, is the unexpected joining of these different stories (The Keep, The Tomb, The Touch) into something greater. It blew my mind.
Dave
I am similar to Dave in my thinking of this. The first time I read the AC I had no idea why they were considered part of a series until the last 2 books tied them together. I also think that the mere existence (and knowledge of) the subsequent RJ books spoils the FULL impact and greatness of the ending of The Tomb.

I must say that I admire your willpower, Barry. I think parts of this read-or-don't-read debate is that some of us might be a little jealous of that willpower to not read Nightworld, but that you have also taken up your cause as a sort of noble martydom. Big Grin

Jim (way off base?)

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Dave   07-22-2004, 10:21 AM
#8
jimbow8 Wrote:I must say that I admire your willpower, Barry. I think parts of this read-or-don't-read debate is that some of us might be a little jealous of that willpower to not read Nightworld, but that you have also taken up your cause as a sort of noble martydom. Big Grin

Jim (way off base?)

Martydom? Throwing our Back to the Future DVDs on the fire for the better of mankind? Big Grin

Me? Jealous? Never. Nope. Not one bit.... Damn you James.

Dave
Scott Hajek   07-22-2004, 10:52 AM
#9
I read Nightworld as soon as it came out. And, like everyone who has read it, loved it and wanted more. Thankfully, Jack came back in the "prequels" to Nightworld.

However, I've only read Nightworld once and will only read it again once it comes out in its new revised form. It will be like reading a new book. Once this last book of the AC is published by Borderlands will I re-read the entire AC. I am going to wait patiently. Thank goodness it's not being published by Cemetery Dance. I'd have to hope for a large print edition by then.

Scott Hajek

[i]"A beer right now would sound good, but I'd rather drink one than listen to it."[/i]
nonsun blob a   07-22-2004, 11:10 AM
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Dave Wrote:I read it when first published, so Jack's further adventures are just more filling inside the cake.

The great thing, which I think is now lost among new readers, is the unexpected joining of these different stories (The Keep, The Tomb, The Touch) into something greater. It blew my mind.

I don't expect many changes in Nightworld, and won't you ever wonder what it was like in it's original form?

Dave

that wasn't lost to me. my father's the one that got me reading it, and he read them when they were coming out, so i read them the same way he did, except with one or two jack books between the last 3 because they were easier to find.
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