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KRW   04-24-2005, 11:19 PM
#1
I think everyone knows Val Kilmors Line as he's playing Doc Halliiday in Tombstone, "I'll be Your Huckleleberry". But does anyone know what it means? I do! Let's hear some guesses before I give up the answer! (BTW, I just learned this today)
Maggers   04-24-2005, 11:34 PM
#2
KRW Wrote:I think everyone knows Val Kilmors Line as he's playing Doc Halliiday in Tombstone, "I'll be Your Huckleleberry". But does anyone know what it means? I do! Let's hear some guesses before I give up the answer! (BTW, I just learned this today)


I associate huckleberry, other than the fruit, with Mark Twain and Huck Finn. I suspect it may have something to do with close friendship, the kind that Huck and Tom Sawyer had. Also, "huckleberry friend" is a phrase in one of my favorite songs, "Moon River."

Maybe it refers to a stand up guy, someone who'll be there for you when you need him?

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Flinx   04-25-2005, 08:32 AM
#3
Try this link.
ShadowLord   04-25-2005, 09:19 AM
#4
Would this be -- a champion receiving the "huckleberry garland" from a lady he intends to defend or joust for in old times?
Hence -- by being a Huckelberry you become a ladies champion or defender.

ShadowLord
jimbow8   04-25-2005, 09:28 AM
#5
I found a link similar to the one Flinx posted that stated the comparison to persimmon. In other words, "I am just a little better than you are" or "I'm just the person you are looking for."

BTW, Doc Holiday says "I'm your huckleberry." (not "I'll be" - sorry, it's just one of my favorite movies Wink)

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
fpw   04-25-2005, 10:04 AM
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jimbow8 Wrote:I found a link similar to the one Flinx posted that stated the comparison to persimmon. In other words, "I am just a little better than you are" or "I'm just the person you are looking for."

The way Doc said it, my guess was it had homosexual connotations.

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jimbow8   04-25-2005, 10:09 AM
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fpw Wrote:The way Doc said it, my guess was it had homosexual connotations.
NEVER crossed my mind and nowhere else in the movie are there (unless you can cite some examples) any other allusions to such a thing. Are there rumors of Holiday's being homosexual? So I'd have to disagree.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
The Mad American   04-25-2005, 11:20 AM
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jimbow8 Wrote:NEVER crossed my mind and nowhere else in the movie are there (unless you can cite some examples) any other allusions to such a thing. Are there rumors of Holiday's being homosexual? So I'd have to disagree.


There are some great lines in that movie, pretty much all by Doc.

When they are trying to bait Earp into a fight and he tells them he is retired, they ask Doc Holiday what about you? and he says "Not me, I am in my prime.." as he coughs and sputters.

Then the "I do believe you are the devil" to his girlfriend...good stuff.

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"Never raise your hand to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected."
~ Red Buttons

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jimbow8   04-25-2005, 11:54 AM
#9
Perhaps my favorite exchange:

Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: Why do you do it?
Doc Holliday: Wyatt Earp is my friend.
Turkey Creek Jack Johnson: Friend? Hell, I got lots of friends.
Doc Holliday: I don't.


Kilmer should have gotten an Academy Award for that performance, IMHO.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Gerald Rice   04-25-2005, 04:20 PM
#10
jimbow8 Wrote:NEVER crossed my mind and nowhere else in the movie are there (unless you can cite some examples) any other allusions to such a thing. Are there rumors of Holiday's being homosexual? So I'd have to disagree.

I don't think he meant Holliday was gay. I think he meant Holliday was baiting him. I imagine men were homophobes back then too and another man making vague challenges to his sexual orientation would be enough to throw him just a tad off his game when it came to a gunfight.
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