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tenebroust   10-16-2006, 11:09 PM
#51
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Still like to go back to Lovecraft, bro. Many have tried to match him, few have succeeded.

So true, so true. His vision was masterful and just look at the legacy he left after his untimely passing.

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Mark S.   10-17-2006, 12:53 PM
#52
I just tried reading CREEPERS by David Morrell. I couldn't finish it.

The prose is very well-crafted, there are some very creepy scenes, the plot is interesting, and there are some great twists in the story.

But about 20 or 30 chapters into the book, I realized that if any or all of these characters died on the next page, I wouldn't care. The author failed to engage either sympathy or empathy for the characters. They were just there to walk through the plot.

So I set it aside and just started THE KEEP for the first time. Six pages in, and I was already hooked.
Mark S.   10-17-2006, 12:54 PM
#53
tenebroust Wrote:So true, so true. His vision was masterful and just look at the legacy he left after his untimely passing.

Lovecraft's prose was unmatched. No one could set a scene or establish a sense of fear and dread like Lovecraft.

But when it came to characterization and plotting, his stories were often severely lacking.
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tenebroust   10-18-2006, 12:33 AM
#54
Mark S. Wrote:Lovecraft's prose was unmatched. No one could set a scene or establish a sense of fear and dread like Lovecraft.

But when it came to characterization and plotting, his stories were often severely lacking.

Yes, I agree. His style in scene was very well done, but that did mean a loss on the other side of the coin for sure. Still one has to marvel at the legacy of a man who was an outsider, barely able to support himself at times. After all even FPW the man we all admire, or we wouldn't be here talking Smile has some connection to the Mythos that had its germination with Lovecraft.

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Mark S.   10-18-2006, 03:26 PM
#55
tenebroust Wrote:Yes, I agree. His style in scene was very well done, but that did mean a loss on the other side of the coin for sure. Still one has to marvel at the legacy of a man who was an outsider, barely able to support himself at times.

Robert E. Howard was the same way. Man, what a freakin' nut. But a great writer and a huge influence upon lots of other great writers.
Scott Miller   10-18-2006, 03:45 PM
#56
Mark S. Wrote:Robert E. Howard was the same way. Man, what a freakin' nut. But a great writer and a huge influence upon lots of other great writers.

I'm a much bigger Howard fan than Lovecraft, but that is beside the point. The point is that if you like both of them, a fun novel is Shadows Bend: A Novel of the Fantastic and Unspeakable by David Barbour and Richard Raleigh. In it, Howard and Lovecraft must join forces to combat Lovecraft's demons-which have turned out to be real.

The authors, pulp scholars if I remember correctly, came up with the idea based upon the real correspondence between the two writers.

Scott

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Barry Lee Dejasu   10-18-2006, 05:05 PM
#57
Currently reading:

At the Mountains of Madness, by (you guessed it) H. P. Lovecraft. Absolutely amazing, and seriously unsettling. I can see why he considered it one of his favorites - it's the same case for me!

Oh, and for a brief geek brag: I was born one block from the very house Lovecraft was born in 92 years earlier, and spent my first several years of my life in that area of Providence. Good thing I'm a fan!

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tenebroust   10-19-2006, 12:52 AM
#58
Scott Miller Wrote:I'm a much bigger Howard fan than Lovecraft, but that is beside the point. The point is that if you like both of them, a fun novel is Shadows Bend: A Novel of the Fantastic and Unspeakable by David Barbour and Richard Raleigh. In it, Howard and Lovecraft must join forces to combat Lovecraft's demons-which have turned out to be real.

The authors, pulp scholars if I remember correctly, came up with the idea based upon the real correspondence between the two writers.

Shadow's Bend is an AWESOME book, glad you mentioned it! I concur in recommending it to one and all.

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tenebroust   10-19-2006, 12:55 AM
#59
Barry Lee Dejasu Wrote:Currently reading:

At the Mountains of Madness, by (you guessed it) H. P. Lovecraft. Absolutely amazing, and seriously unsettling. I can see why he considered it one of his favorites - it's the same case for me!

Oh, and for a brief geek brag: I was born one block from the very house Lovecraft was born in 92 years earlier, and spent my first several years of my life in that area of Providence. Good thing I'm a fan!

You are so lucky! ATMOM is a good story, and it is the embodiment of Lovecraft's idea of a "resurgence" a hidden history coming back to haunt those of today.

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Miskatonic & Gin   10-22-2006, 12:54 AM
#60
cyber-jack Wrote:I don't even know any more...

The original Necroscope Series was:

Necroscope
Vamphrii
The Source
DeadSpeak
Deadspawn

After that it gets a little murky with:

Blood Brothers
The Last Aeri
Bloodwars

And then the newer ones:

The Lost Years vol 1 & 2

And the even more recent:

Defilers
Avengers
Invaders

I probably do not have the order correct on the later ones, and I've surely missed one or two somewhere, but I've read the first five and thought they were pretty good. Each one rehashes the previous volumes to some extent and this gets worse as you go along, but you definetely should read them in order.

I've got most of the newer titles in my slush pile, but haven't felt moved to actually pick one up and start reading it...

I'm pretty sure you're correct on that order. I have them all but I only read the first 5 and lost interest.

Cthulhu for President!

Why vote for a lesser evil? I can think of none better than the great old one, who should return from his slumber to take over the U.S. government and make this country a whole hell of a lot better as the leader of our executive branch. Or destroy it and drive everyone insane, kill us all, or something really nasty! Remember, Cthulhu for President, why vote for the lesser of two evils? Wink
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