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Lisa   04-14-2004, 12:05 PM
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Just to reiterate what Jim said, the movie The Keep is TERRIBLE, to put it mildly. Consider yourself warned.

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iambear   04-15-2004, 01:13 AM
#12
geez eh. its starting to sound like a car crash.....
you dont want to look, but its just so horriffic that you have too.
just out of curiosity, what made it so bad ???? was it the acting ? was it done with such a low budget, that it looked cheep and fake ????
Ken Valentine   04-15-2004, 06:44 AM
#13
iambear Wrote:geez eh. its starting to sound like a car crash.....
you dont want to look, but its just so horriffic that you have too.
just out of curiosity, what made it so bad ???? was it the acting ? was it done with such a low budget, that it looked cheep and fake ????

From what I remember of it, Michael Mann turned it into a vampire movie. Perhaps he didn't have the wherewithall to express the far greater and more evil aspect of Molasar as he was portrayed in the book.

Ken V.
jimbow8   04-15-2004, 09:22 AM
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iambear Wrote:geez eh. its starting to sound like a car crash.....
you dont want to look, but its just so horriffic that you have too.
just out of curiosity, what made it so bad ???? was it the acting ? was it done with such a low budget, that it looked cheep and fake ????
I think you should just watch it and form your own opinion. Perhaps you will like it, or at least think that it isn't THAT horrible, like I do.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Biggles   04-18-2004, 05:27 PM
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jimbow8 Wrote:I think you should just watch it and form your own opinion. Perhaps you will like it, or at least think that it isn't THAT horrible, like I do.


Everything is relative. Compared to "Terms of Endearment" I would rather watch "The Keep". When I went to see the former movie I hated every character except Jack Nicholson's. Before it ended I was looking at my watch and saying "Die already" referring to Debra Winger's character.

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iambear   04-19-2004, 01:56 PM
#16
well, I got "the keep" from the library and I am about half way through it.... and I just got the movie "the keep" on ebay for about 5 bucks... it should be here around the same time I am finished the book.then I can give you my 2 cents on it.
iambear   04-21-2004, 11:58 AM
#17
i just read on a website that there are 3 different versions of the the movie "the keep " one of them has about 3 and a half minutes added to the end..... is that true ???
by the way... still reading the keep and still waiting for the movie too...
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nijimeijer   04-21-2004, 05:10 PM
#18
Ken Valentine Wrote:From what I remember of it, Michael Mann turned it into a vampire movie. Perhaps he didn't have the wherewithall to express the far greater and more evil aspect of Molasar as he was portrayed in the book.

Ken V.

Vampire movie? I didn't get that at all. In fact . . . uh . . .

SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO'VE NEVER SEEN "THE KEEP"

Highlight to read:
I got space aliens out of it. At the end, the sword is actually a laser rod, and Glaeken transforms into whatever species Rasalom is portrayed to be. To me, that clearly said "Cosmic Space Being Warrior Thing".

END SPOILERS
jimbow8   04-21-2004, 05:24 PM
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I must admit that I never saw it as a vampire movie, either. Monster movie, sure, but not vampires. That would have made it better, IMHO (remember that I actually like the movie). The book alluded to vampires and then changed courses, so basically the movie being a "vampire movie" just means that it never followed through and changed course like the novel.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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