Pages (3):    1 2 3
Bluesman Mike Lindner   03-21-2010, 01:06 PM
#21
Peter Wrote:Exactly right Blues. I have been in a few sort of awkward situations with my beloved Val which would not have bothered me in the slightest on my own. I can fight or I can back off. But with your lady there you are left with just the one option so you tend to be more careful because of that.

Spoken like a man of sense, Peter.
webby   03-21-2010, 01:36 PM
#22
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Is that uniquely American?

And I think Gia is a source of strength for Jack, as she keeps him from getting careless. Fuck up and leave Gia and Vicky alone with Nightworld coming? No, indeed!

Very insightful, Mike. Smile

And I agree. I've thought Gia was annoying at times, but it's true that she gives Jack a necessary balance. She also has come to understand him and why he does what he does much more in the latest RJ books.

.
It's Thirteen O'Clock
-------------------------------------
"I said, Hey Senorita - that's astute, I said, why don't we get together and call ourselves an institute?" --Paul Simon
-------------------------------------
"In the final analysis, the last line of defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves." -- Ron Paul

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Ken Valentine   03-22-2010, 07:26 PM
#23
unsupervised Wrote:like the potential spoiler alert Libby Smile

I was actually just thinking that I'd hate to stumble across a spoiler here. I actually came across a spoiler in Wikipedia... everyone can take that as a warning!

As for Gia in general and no offence to our intrepid author, it seems such an American literary thing that there MUST be a love interest and that love interest MUST be a source of weakness for the hero
As I see it, you find that so much in fiction because you find it so often in real life.

(But I don't consider it a weakness.)

Ken V.
wdg3rd   03-31-2010, 12:16 AM
#24
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Is that uniquely American?

I've been a fan of Alexandre Dumas for over four decades (I once read his stuff in the original, though these days I couldn't read a Kaybeck traffic sign without a LaRousse). Hell, just in The Three Musketeers there are at least five examples of women bringing the heroes almost to grief because of the romantic side. (Haven't reread it in a couple of decades, probably forgetting a few other incidents, so I'm low-balling it -- those five you'll find in the 70s pair of movies covering the book, anyway -- the ones with Michael York, who in those days I was told I resembled, but my hair was never that neat and my nose was never that straight).

Ward Griffiths

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest". -- Denis Diderot
unsupervised   03-31-2010, 03:24 AM
#25
I see I may have been to hasty in describing it as uniquely American and a sources of weakness.

But we often see the underlaying plot line.... loner-boy is unbeatable, boy meets girl, girl is kidnapped, boy has to rescue girl, etc etc. sure, there is usually a happy ending but can anyone deny that the formula is tiresome?

As a RJ fan, I know the story is more complex. As a man that knows what it's like to be ungrounded, I know that life is more complex. Maybe I'm just jaded by the mandatory love-interest that Hollywood tosses to us, over and over.

Or maybe the thought of someone using my loved-ones in a leverage game against me is just too unsettling
wdg3rd   04-01-2010, 12:03 AM
#26
unsupervised Wrote:I see I may have been to hasty in describing it as uniquely American and a sources of weakness.

But we often see the underlaying plot line.... loner-boy is unbeatable, boy meets girl, girl is kidnapped, boy has to rescue girl, etc etc. sure, there is usually a happy ending but can anyone deny that the formula is tiresome?

As a RJ fan, I know the story is more complex. As a man that knows what it's like to be ungrounded, I know that life is more complex. Maybe I'm just jaded by the mandatory love-interest that Hollywood tosses to us, over and over.

Or maybe the thought of someone using my loved-ones in a leverage game against me is just too unsettling

The thought of someone using my loved-ones in a leverage game against me would make me go just a little bit more postal than Jack did in All the Rage. There aren't that many of them (and sorry, but none of them are close relatives -- folks can threaten my blood-kin all they want, it won't get a rise out of me). There are only two living people on this planet that I would live or die for, they and maybe four others that I would die for [the maybe is because you don't really know until TSHTF, and circumstances concerning the first two would take priority]).

Yeah, I've spent some fair amount of time ungrounded. The few who ground me are sacred.

Ward Griffiths

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest". -- Denis Diderot
Pages (3):    1 2 3
  
Users browsing this thread: 4 Guest(s)
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.
Made with by Curves UI.