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cobalt   05-24-2010, 10:21 AM
The writers left all those questions unanswered. We did get Richards story and Jacob's relationship with MIB and how MIB changed. But dammit! I wanted the man to have a name...not a MIB or Smokey....or the monster...sigh.

So the island life and deaths all happened and the flash sideways was a meeting spot when they died. Desmond and Charlie were the keys there. I just wanted so much more...but that is life I suppose....we all die.

I always saw the island as a chance at redemption for the group. I thought they were all dead on the island...way back. But maybe they weren't....the nice thing though...the writers left a whole lot of questions unanswered...to discuss and a story that is so wide open to interpretation that the questions will be discussed and tossed around for years to come.

I know it had to....but I didn't want it to end. Sad

PS And at the end...I thought Maggers volcano was going to explode too! When it didn't I was almost disappointed. Big Grin

EWMAN
Maggers   05-24-2010, 11:39 AM
Oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my....

No, they are not all dead. As Christian Shepherd said, and I cannot believe I never really got the impact of his name until last night (!), some have gone before and others will go after, but Jack, you are dead. And I guess we were experiencing the resolution through Jack's eyes. The final scene with Jack and Vincent had me sobbing. Oh my. And Jack's eye closing....ooooohhhhh....my heart broke, but what a beautiful ending.

I am tearing up now as I type this. How absolutely lovely that they all created a place where they could meet again in the great beyond. Isn't that what we all want? To be reunited with those we love whom we've lost and to be able to be with them forever?

Damn, my volcano was a tiny fraction of what I anticipated (Big Grin) but it did play a wee part. LOL.

I had said that Jack would die and Hurley would take his place. I didn't see that Ben would be willing to be Hurley's second in command. Ben and Hurley's final chat ourside the church hinted that Hurley as #1 and Ben as #2 made a great pair on the Island. I want to see THAT story! I bet we might in a movie to come. (FYI....The church was the place they had reunited to get back to the Island with Eloise and that pendulum thingy.)

But I am so thrilled that they are together in a good place. They are happy, they are with the people they needed and wanted to be with. It was, well, heavenly. For me, this show has always been about relationships, and to have the finale be all about their eternal intertwined relationships was exquisite.

I do think that those who lived are alive, but not in Island time. I think they got yet another chance in the reality of the flash sideways. But that gets tricky, and, frankly, I don't think it's all that important.

Yes, I still have questions. But they seem trivial now.

I am so happy that Liam had caught up with viewing the entire series so that he could watch the ending with me. It was so very, very special.


Oh, and PS, what short shrift they gave Widmore! He didn't get into the finale at all, not even at the concert with Eloise! Ha!
This post was last modified: 05-24-2010, 11:42 AM by Maggers.

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The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   05-24-2010, 11:50 AM
Oh, and I'm so happy Lapidus made it! Yay! I clapped so hard when I saw him bobbing in the waves that Liam asked me to pipe down. LOL.

We could discuss forever the assorted time lines and futures of everyone who remained - those who flew away, those who remained on the Island, those who thrived in the flash sideways. That's the point, I think.

I believe that the study of LOST will become a class at universities. It is rich enough, touches on so many religious, theological, and social themes, as well as science, physics and metaphysics.

I, for one, would take that course. It would, naturally, last forever, 'cause I can never be without my LOST.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

colburn0004   05-24-2010, 12:08 PM
Just watched a Q&A with E onlines Kirsten who has talked to a lot of the cast and has talked to Darlton quite a few times she had a pretty good amount of insites from what Darlton had told her.

-We will find out what happend to Walt on the DVD.
-MIB had a name but TPTB wanted it to be mysterious so they left it out. But it was Samuel(which means man of God in hebrew) It was supposed to show how their mother thought he was supposed to be the succesor to her.
-The cabin scene where someone moaned "Help Me" and the eye Hurley saw at the cabin was MIB in the body of Christian
-She unfortunately knows nothing about Eloise or Widmore and their knowledge(which is so dang aggrevating I want to know more about them) My somewhat theory is maybe she was somewhat like Desmond and in her pergotory she relized she was dead which seemed like she knew with the talk with Desmond last night, and somehow like Desmond her concious in the real world was aware of it? I don't know there just has to be some explanation.
-Apparently they told her that the protector of the Island is in some way in control of the weather on the island. If they were going through something hard or something you may have a storm and weather could change rapidly. This was also why Darma was wanting to study the weather on the Island. I think this was an easy way to explain production problems with rain sometimes and a easy way to answer it. It was brought up when asked about the Jack and Flocke fight last night.

That's all that was asked of her if she knew. I haven't seen too many other Q&A's yet, but I guess after this Damon and Carlton are pretty much going into radio silence and not wanting to talk about the show again.

"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I never had them for as long as I can remember!"
Maggers   05-24-2010, 12:16 PM
colburn0004 Wrote:-The cabin scene where someone moaned "Help Me"...
I knew that was Christian speaking. I recognized his voice (I've got a good ear for that). Of course, at the time, I had no idea the MIB even existed, so I didn't make that connection per se. But I knew that whatever had animated Christian's body was speaking to Locke with Christian's voice.
This post was last modified: 05-24-2010, 12:22 PM by Maggers.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

colburn0004   05-24-2010, 12:19 PM
Maggers Wrote:I knew that was Christian speaking. I recognized his voice (I've got a good ear for that). Of course, at the time, I had no idea the MIB even existed, so I didn't make that connection per se. But I knew that whatever had animated Christian's body was speaking to Locke with Christian's voice.

And you just skipped the MIB name drop? :p lol

Oh and another answer was that Jin was actually the Kwon on the cave wall. Sun was not because she became a mother.

"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I never had them for as long as I can remember!"
Maggers   05-24-2010, 12:20 PM
Can you imagine the Island under Hurley's rule? What a great place that would be! Ben told Hurley that the rules they'd been working under were Jacob's rules, and he was gone. I bet Hurley's rules were wonderful, and I be that someday we will see them. Without the smoke monster, and without the likelihood that another would be created, there would be no need for Hurley to be as paranoid as Jacob was, living in fear of his not-quite-dead brother.

Woot for Hurley's Island! Big Grin

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   05-24-2010, 12:21 PM
colburn0004 Wrote:And you just skipped the MIB name drop? :p lol
I don't know what you mean.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

colburn0004   05-24-2010, 12:24 PM
Maggers Wrote:I don't know what you mean.

On the answers to the Q&A one of them was what MIB's actual name was. Big Grin

"Sanity? Worthless things like that, I never had them for as long as I can remember!"
Maggers   05-24-2010, 12:40 PM
colburn0004 Wrote:On the answers to the Q&A one of them was what MIB's actual name was. Big Grin

Sorry, I'm still not getting what you mean. What Q&A? I am only speaking about my recognizing the voice that moaned "help me" as being the voice of the actor who played Christian Shepherd, therefore, for me, it was the voice of Christian's animated body, whoever it might be who was animating it. I recognized that long ago when it first aired.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

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