Don't forget the force of water. With huge waves behind it, the ship + the force of the water could shatter the statue. Think tsunami.

The more I thought about it, the more this makes sense. Plus the Black Rock ended up in the middle of the island, how better to get there than on a wall of water.

I just hope when its all over that it is a believable explanation ... I dont want a bus jumping over a missing section of freeway without a ramp ...

Keep in mind that the MIB provides nothing but misinformation. I don't believe a word out of his mouth, whatever mouth he may be speaking out of at the moment. Except for his promise to kill Jacob, that I believed and that was the truth.

The rumor of the Island being hell is all MIB baloney, feeding into what Richard needed to hear. It's like the idea that Locke had to die to save the Island. That was MIB baloney, as I pointed out earlier in this thread. Locke didn't need to die. Locke's dying didn't do anything more than provide the MIB the exact embodiment he wanted so that MIB could more easily carry out his nefarious, cunning, and meticulous plans.

I'm not going to guess what's coming. I can't. But I did have the suspicion for the last few years that the Island, existing as it does out of time, is some sort of protective device for the planet. Though who devised that protection and how exactly it works still remains to be seen.

I want to know what has happened in the "flash sideways" to:
Daniel Faraday
Ellie, Daniel's mom
Charles Whitmore, Daniel's dad and Penelope's dad
Penelope
Desmond
Little baby Charlie, maybe he doesn't get born
Jieon (pardon spelling), Sun and Jin's baby girl conceived on the Island
And the yahoos who were buried alive with their diamonds...Nikki and Pablo?

I wonder what would have happened to Richard or Jacob or the MIB, too.

I meant cork. When Alpert said 'Hell', I yelled at my tv, 'No. It's not supposed to be Hell or Purgatory.'

I see the Island now as the one thing that's preventing Hell on earth. Whether it's a prison or a cork plugging the gates of Hell. (Suddenly though of a different hole and chew wasps.)

Gotcha. And that other hole with the chew wasps? Cool. I've often thought that LOST seems to have more than a little similarity to FPW's AC / RJ multiverse. Two opposing forces...apparently immortal...existing outside of time...the "bad" one mostly interested in wrecking things and people...the "good" one more or less indifferent, mainly wanting just to keep the other from winning the game/argument they are having... hmmm....

In the flash sideways, with the island sunk, is it Hell on Earth everywhere else? Or is everyone living out what they wanted as a way of the Man in Black saying, 'Thank you for freeing me.'?

If the bomb popped the cork, as it were, setting MIB free, I would expect to see Hell on Earth. That it doesn't appear to be that way has me completely confused about the meaning of the sideways world.

Speaking of the sideways world -- what's up with all the mirror gazing? There's been so much of it, it surely means something but I don't have a clue as to what that meaning might be.

I'm not going to guess what's coming. I can't. But I did have the suspicion for the last few years that the Island, existing as it does out of time, is some sort of protective device for the planet. Though who devised that protection and how exactly it works still remains to be seen.

I'm with you, Maggers. I can't guess either. I only hope that whatever comes will be a satisfying conclusion to everything that has happened on the way.

I want to know what has happened in the "flash sideways" to:
Daniel Faraday
Ellie, Daniel's mom
Charles Whitmore, Daniel's dad and Penelope's dad
Penelope
Desmond
Little baby Charlie, maybe he doesn't get born
Jieon (pardon spelling), Sun and Jin's baby girl conceived on the Island
And the yahoos who were buried alive with their diamonds...Nikki and Pablo?

I wonder what would have happened to Richard or Jacob or the MIB, too.

I mostly just want to know what the sideways world IS. It's making me crazy not being able to make any kind of sense out of it.

I read in an interview in entertainment weekly that in the end it will be revealed how the present and the flash sideways [SPOILER]both exist in 1 world [/SPOILER]...

Let's see if I got this straight: The island is a prison for the pure evil creature. Jacob is the gatekeeper or turnkey. So, who does Jacob work for? Now that we know this isn't about time travel, allow me to parallel another storyline, that of the Twilight Zone episode where the Brothers (led by John Carradine) trap and keep the Devil locked in the castle. Think about it. A castle keep.

AC

I'm speculating that if we ever find out the MIB's name...it will be an ancient name for the devil.

I mentioned before that I'm rewatching the whole series from the beginning since I got Mr. Webby hooked on the show. We started on Season 2 this weekend and another scene stood out as potentially far more meaningful than it first appeared.

In the episode 1 scene where Jack and Desmond (apparently) first meet while running in the stadium, Des says something that gave me the shivers. Towards the end of their conversation there, Des says he's going to give Jack a bit of advice... "you have to lift it up", he says. :eek:

So now I'm wondering if this moment is going to come back in a big way before it's all over. Hmmm....

Here's the scene on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPR6gGE4ssU. Pay close attention starting at the 3:33 mark.

Could be important, yeah?

I mentioned before that I'm rewatching the whole series from the beginning since I got Mr. Webby hooked on the show.

I've got Liam watching now, too. We are about halfway through Season 2.

Before this last season started, I watched the entire series backwards, from Season 5 to 1. Then watched it forwards, from Season 1 to 5. That's after having seen each episode of each season at least 10 times, probably more. I've studied this show like no other.

It's been my experience that everything that is placed in a scene, every word out of their mouths, every action they take is meaningful, and sometimes becomes much more meaningful after you've viewed the entire series (so far). I imagine after the show's finale, there will be many more "ah ha!" moments if we review the entire series again, which I am sure to do.

In fact, I have to be very careful what I say to Liam, who, of course, has no idea what is to come. I know so much more and I find myself wanting to blurt out, "Oh Wow! So THAT'S what that means!" Because I've made yet another connection to future/past/sideways events on or off the Island. I stay completely silent while watching with Liam, and let me tell you, for me, that's hard.

I remember the scene with Desmond and Jack, and yes, you have to lift it up is important for many reasons. Desmond was, of course, talking about Jack's ankle, but Desmond was also a former monk-in-training. So Desmond has had, probably still has, a close relationship with a higher power. I would imagine that infuses his world and a phrase like you have to lift it up becomes much more meaningful. And, it will probably be repeated in whatever scene will come between Jack and Desmond on the Island, because you just know Desmond has to make it back to the Island for the tableau to be complete.