Jin is approximately 16 years BEFORE Oceanic 815.

Since Jin seems to have "skipped" back in time....it will be interesting to see how he gets back to his own time.

The "Others" abducted all babies born on the island from women that did not conceive on the island. Ben is the "adoptive" father.

I had forgotten that. I just assumed that the daughter Ben killed was his natural born child.

The "Others" abducted all babies born on the island from women that did not conceive on the island. Ben is the "adoptive" father.

I feel kind of retarded. The fact that baby's have problems being born on the island if they were concieved on the island should be proof that Ben isn't the father and it should have been proof Roussau wasn't from the black rock as it would have been too far back. So was this as big as a reveal as it seemed? or am I completely wrong?

Having Roussau show up on the island pregnant is the important thing I think. All of her crew mates die, I believe they turn on one another. The Others swoop in and take her baby, no wonder she's mean and wary.
As to her coming from The Black Rock, do we know the name of the ship that she came from? It'll be interesting to see if it's the same name as the wreck on the island. I did see something written on some wreckage on the beach, but didn't understand what it said, nor what language it was in.

Having Roussau show up on the island pregnant is the important thing I think. All of her crew mates die, I believe they turn on one another. The Others swoop in and take her baby, no wonder she's mean and wary.
As to her coming from The Black Rock, do we know the name of the ship that she came from? It'll be interesting to see if it's the same name as the wreck on the island. I did see something written on some wreckage on the beach, but didn't understand what it said, nor what language it was in.

When they were looking at the wreckage, Locke turned over a metal can (at least that's what it looked like to me) that said BESIX DOUZE. Not sure what BESIX is. DOUZE is 12 in French.

Here's a link to Lost Cubit. This guy gets all the great screen shots.

http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2009/02/5...e.php#more

OK, Besix Douze in french. A story of a little prince and an asteroid. I worked too much today.......I'm confused....:confused:

You're doing better than I am. When I was watching I didn't even notice that there was a can with writing on it.

Brian saw it.......maybe Lysis knows what it means....hhmmmm?

I had forgotten that. I just assumed that the daughter Ben killed was his natural born child.

I feel kind of retarded. The fact that baby's have problems being born on the island if they were concieved on the island should be proof that Ben isn't the father and it should have been proof Roussau wasn't from the black rock as it would have been too far back. So was this as big as a reveal as it seemed? or am I completely wrong?

No big reveal. Long ago, Danielle told her story of how she came to be on the Island, of how her ship of research scientists heard the numbers being repeated over and over, how they came to inspect but got caught in a storm and were shipwrecked. She told of being shipwrecked and pregnant and how she had to deliver her baby alone after she killed all of her research crew, and how the Others came and took the baby.

Ben became the adoptive father, again by his own admission.

We never saw any of it. We only heard Danielle tell her story.

I wonder if the disease that Danielle was so terrified of, the disease that got to her shipmates and for which she felt she had to kill them so as not to let the disease spread off the Island, was actually the time traveling after effects. If they came to the Island without following the specific coordinates that seem to keep travelers safe, they could have the same illness that the people on board the freighter had and that Theresa, Daniel's female friend sick in bed in London, has.

Oh, and there was mention made of "how Montand (sounds like Montan) lost his arm," sometime when Arndtz was still alive, think it was the episode when they all traveled to the Black Rock to get the dynamite. Back then, we weren't sure who Montand was, but it was apparent it was one of her research scientist shipmates.