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Sigokat   01-24-2009, 04:49 PM
#21
Jamo, yeah I think you are right. I had forgotten about that statement from Sayid about doing the opposite of whatever Ben says.

Cobalt, I honestly believe Ben's interests are now about the Island. It was the look on his face after the old woman's final statement that convinced me. Ben KNOWS he has to get them back to the Island and with the woman's 70 hour deadline he's going to be awfully busy LOL

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Maggers   01-24-2009, 07:24 PM
#22
Marc Wrote:er? Have we met her yet?
I think Farraday's mother may be the woman with white hair (actress Finnuala Flanagan). She's key to the whole time travel business. She first introduced us to the concept when we saw Desmond trying to buy an engagement ring from her. She explained how the time shifting worked, back then. We know a little more about the time shifting now.

But here is my disclaimer... whenever I think I've got something down on this show, they fool me.

However, I do think she is connected to Daniel in some way.



Quote:(Oh... and I think Locke is faking his death. It's probably a drug or something that has slowed his vitals down.)
I don't think Locke is faking his death. I think that he is dead but will be transported to a time on the Island before his death so that he, well, won't be dead. In fact, that is what I think will happen with everyone on the Island who has died. They will eventually come back when the Island shift far enough back in time and stays there. That is, of course, if that happens, and it may or may not.

I love this series as most everyone knows. My fav of all time, no pun intended.

I think the first episode of this season got us off to a great start.

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The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

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Maggers   01-24-2009, 07:28 PM
#23
jacobm Wrote:okay, really reaching here, and probably wrong, but what the hell. Maybe the "ghosts" of people (ie: Christian Shephard, Charlie, etc.) that pop up occasionally aren't really ghosts at all, but just characters jumping through time? I know they have referred to themselves as dead (at least i think Charlie did) but maybe thats just easier than explaining the time travel thing.

I think you may be on to something here. I don't think people who die on the Island actually die in real time, because what is real time on the Island? There's Island time and there's our time, and apparently they are not the same.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   01-24-2009, 07:50 PM
#24
A couple of more thoughts....

White haired woman also appeared in a photo with the head monk at the abbey where Desmond was training, way back when. The head monk had a picture on his desk with himself and the white haired woman, who could be the monk's sister or his mother or who knows who.

The baby in the first scene.... Could be someone we know. But the thought that jumped out at me was babies could be born on the Island back then. I'm not 100% sure that baby was born on the Island, but he was pretty young.

So what happened to the Island that it became such a toxic place to pregnant woman?

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Aprilis   01-24-2009, 08:27 PM
#25
Maggers Wrote:I think you may be on to something here. I don't think people who die on the Island actually die in real time, because what is real time on the Island? There's Island time and there's our time, and apparently they are not the same.


I wonder if this is why the pregnant women didnt mind the pregnancy experiments? Because they knew they wouldnt really die?
hmmm.

I always wondered where they got all of these women to test on.

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Brian   01-24-2009, 09:07 PM
#26
Aprilis Wrote:I wonder if this is why the pregnant women didnt mind the pregnancy experiments? Because they knew they wouldnt really die?
hmmm.

I always wondered where they got all of these women to test on.
I've wondered that as well.
Do the Darma people shift these women in time again and again as part of the experiment?

The time shifting may be why the babies don't survive, they don't have a previous life on the island to go back to.

Another thought, when Ben moved the island, he brought it at first to a "time" when the island was invisible again. Is this why it keeps shifting in time so arbitrarily? Or is it unstable because the 6 need to come back to stabilize the time shifts, like missing pieces to a puzzle?
The last scene was from the WWII era I think, the Soldiers had M-1 Garands for weapons. Where does this fit in?

One last idea. Faraday said that the past couldn't be changed, the events would still happen. Yet he went to Desmond in the hatch and changed history himself with his message to go to Oxford. He consulted his diary first, as if was written down and he had forgotten.
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cobalt   01-24-2009, 10:31 PM
#27
sigokat Wrote:Cobalt, I honestly believe Ben's interests are now about the Island. It was the look on his face after the old woman's final statement that convinced me. Ben KNOWS he has to get them back to the Island and with the woman's 70 hour deadline he's going to be awfully busy LOL


And good luck getting Hurley out of police custody now.

EWMAN
Maggers   01-24-2009, 10:40 PM
#28
More random thoughts..... I shouldn't even bother with these statements. The show turns me on my head all the time. Why should this season be different. Nevertheless....

When Hurley had Sayid unconscious in the car and he was pulled over by the cops, I knew it would be Ana Lucia who would come up to him. I expect everyone we've ever known on the Island to make a come back. I sure hope we see Mr. Eko again soon.

Dan's notebook is also key to the Island. I think his being at the Orchid Station when the scientist discovered the wheel behind the wall is part of the current time shifting that they are all experiencing, and we'll find out more about that in a later episode.

I was struck by how much the sonar picture of what was behind the wall looked like a ship's wheel imbedded in stone and partially buried. The wheel is, of course, what Ben had to turn in order to move the Island.

Desmond was Dan's constant. Perhaps Desmond is the Island's constant. Whatever happened to Desmond when the hatch imploded turned Desmond into someone very important in the time shifting of the Island. Desmond may in some way be the one who can stop the Island shifting in time, once the other 6 are returned.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   01-25-2009, 12:18 AM
#29
Medusa Wrote:Neil reminded me of Artz (or whatever the hell his name was).

Neil, aka Frogurt, was introduced on one of the "missing pieces" clips that can be seen on the Lost abc.com website.


Someone mentioned Ben's taking a mysterious box out of the air vent in the hotel room. I don't know what it is, but the whole move was very "No Country for Old Men."

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   01-25-2009, 01:26 AM
#30
Remember the white haired woman was writing mathematical, physics kind of equation on a blackboard when we first saw her this season...all cloaked and hooded. I bet she is Dan's mom.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

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