I've deleted this post because bits and pieces - mostly out of context - are popping up all over the net, with headers to the effect that I say the film "stole" my Joker. You here know me better than that.

This was meant as a conversation between us, in our house, not all over the web. So I've taken it down.

But you can still download the story: [SIZE=3]http://www.repairmanjack.com/support files/JOKER-set.rtf.[/SIZE]

Thank you for sharing that story with us. Chilling, absolutely chilling......:eek:

Is it possible to buy 'Definitive Therapy' anywhere as part of a collection? Is it included in Joker: The Greatest Stories Ever Told? I am enjoying reading the script, but would prefer to read the comic.

It's in The Barrens & Others.

The Martin Greenburg collection is The Further Adventures of the Joker and it looks like it can only be found used. I'd recommend getting this as some of the stories are very good. Robert McCammon did a good Joker childhood story called On a Beautiful Summers day, he was which can't be found anywhere else.

It's in The Barrens & Others.

The Martin Greenburg collection is The Further Adventures of the Joker and it looks like it can only be found used. I'd recommend getting this as some of the stories are very good. Robert McCammon did a good Joker childhood story called On a Beautiful Summers day, he was which can't be found anywhere else.

I have The Further Adventures of Batman, but I didn't know about "the Joker". Sounds cool.

From a thread started last summer...

Heath played the Joker that FPW wrote about in "Definitive Therapy". He's not your everyday bad guy, he makes the extra effort. In fact Alfred probably said it the best when trying to describe him.... "Some men just want to watch the world burn."

I was thinking the exact same thing; not a guy you would want to encounter.

It's in The Barrens & Others.

The Martin Greenburg collection is The Further Adventures of the Joker and it looks like it can only be found used. I'd recommend getting this as some of the stories are very good. Robert McCammon did a good Joker childhood story called On a Beautiful Summers day, he was which can't be found anywhere else.

I agree that both are worth picking up; The Further Adventures of Joker has some great stories in addition to "Definitive Therapy".

It does make me look at the movie in another light. I never connected it for some reason

It does make me look at the movie in another light. I never connected it for some reason

Paul, somehow, for such a nice hombre, understands true evil. His Joker isn't the grinning but ultimately ineffectual buffoon whom Batman will always beat. Nope. His Joker is a powerful psychopath. I know the Batman (also bugfuck nuts) has a code against killing, but jeez...some people really do deserve it. How about this?: Batman, through inaction, allows the Joker to die. "Bruce! Help me! Give me your hand!" "Sorry, pal. Torching the childrens' hospital was too raw, too rank. See you in Hell."

And the Joker pulls himself out of the maelstrom... "Sweet little me is back...and now I'm =really= angry!"

im not a huge DC comics fan, so all i know about the joker is based on either burton's version of just bits and pieces i gathered through weird cultural osmosis and thus my opinion doesn't really have much stock, but from what i heard, ledger's version of the joker was more in tune with what the joker was originally supposed to be like: a completely non-empathetic psycho and NOT a strutting, clownish buffoon. i will say, however, that the scene in the hospital where the joker is telling dent about 'the schemers' and how chaos is the only way didn't so much remind me of 'definitive therapy', but more of the scene between the oculus and rasalom in 'harbingers'.