[SIZE="3"]Listen to Libby. In some of you others, I sense a need to reread.[/SIZE]

I was planning on re-readiing.....now I have to to keep up!

Have fun, and the numbers 3 and 7 are the only magic numbers used in the Grimm's Fairy tales. All of the magic numers are 3 or 7 in fairy tales. I though that your mention if 23 had to do with the horror movie 23.

It was...the number can be found virtually everywhere you look, but I'll leave you to see the movie...and the special features go further into describing the phenomenon. It is freaky.

One (small?) example. The Axis of the Earth is 23.5 degrees. So what, I said to myself, that's not 23. But what does 2+3 equal? So the axis of the Earth tilts at 23 plus 2 plus 3 degrees.

This is only the beginning of the creepiness.

-Wapitikev

It was...the number can be found virtually everywhere you look, but I'll leave you to see the movie...and the special features go further into describing the phenomenon. It is freaky.

One (small?) example. The Axis of the Earth is 23.5 degrees. So what, I said to myself, that's not 23. But what does 2+3 equal? So the axis of the Earth tilts at 23 plus 2 plus 3 degrees.

This is only the beginning of the creepiness.

-Wapitikev

Also, 2 and 3 are both prime numbers. And .5 is not 2+3 but .2+.3, which are not mathamatically the same. It is still creepy, though. Wait, maybe here are 23 women with dogs!:eek:

My first post and I'm already attempting to blow minds. Well, here goes...

First thing: I'm not sure if this is explained in Nightworld, which I understand is the last Repairman Jack book, before it technically ends. But assuming it's not, here it is: I think Jack is meant to be the Otherness's One. In Harbingers, The Lady says that all the crazy things that happened to Jack's loved ones was the Ally trimming his branches, but I think she was lying. I think it really was the Otherness. Consider: In Conspiracies, Jack has two nightmares, and in one of them the rakoshi kill Gia and Vicky, saying they were cutting Jack's ties to the world, and that he could finally be one of them. And then there were those crates, which I think were really sent to his hotel room because the Otherness wanted him to cross over and become indoctrinated.

Also, in Gateways, all those Everglades people were set to kill Tom. They were obviously being influenced by the Otherness, not the Ally, and they were trying to trim one of Jack's "branches" again. Look at Infernal, where the Lilitongue was first going to take Vicky, then Gia, then Jack himself! If that had happened, I think he would have been sent to the Otherness, cutting all of his branches in one fell swoop.

This kind of thing happens all the time in the Repairman Jack books.

Also, as a side note, I wanted to mention that in The Tomb, just after Jack lights the Mother on fire, it screams something that sounds like "Spa fon!" Could that be "Rasalom"?

Oh, and one more thing. Don't think you can pull a fast one on me, F. Paul Wilson! For those of you who haven't realized every single number- I repeat, EVERY SINGLE NUMBER- in Bloodline is a multiple of seven.

The way I read the books, it seemed like it "was" the otherness killing off his loved ones. The insinuation was very high in "Gateways" when Rasalom told Jack he wanted to see him suffer, that it would be like a fine wine. But in "Harbingers" it was discovered that it was the ally trimming his branches. (all the better for the R-guy) Also remember that in "Gateways" that Jack needed to go to Florida to get a major piece to the puzzle that fit in "Crisscross". But if you look at it one way, the ladies may have been responsible for Jacks presence in Florida. After all, he learned more about them in that book than in all the other books combined. But I doubt it. I prefer the theory that they are strategical placing themselves in these situations to help educate and help Jack because they have recognized him as a pawn that could be a king in this battle for Earth. And they want to win too. (I'm sure by any means necessary)


The "freaks in the creek" where definitely otherness tainted. IMO (I want to say by way of Monroe, but I'm not sure) Although by using the see shells (Yes, I meant see) to "remote view" and influence the behavior of animals kinda smacks of the ladies, (didn't she get the shells from an old woman?) but the allie or the adversary could be responsible for it also.

DISCLAIMER: This post was typed from my memory and after a 6 pack of beer.

Also, 2 and 3 are both prime numbers. And .5 is not 2+3 but .2+.3, which are not mathamatically the same. It is still creepy, though. Wait, maybe here are 23 women with dogs!:eek:

The 23 phenomenon is not about math...it is about the numbers 2 and 3. The fact that .2 and .3 have a decimal in front of them have no effect on the fact that the numeral 2 and 3 are there...they've just been divided by 10. One of the main things that make it creepy is that you can use any permutation or combination of the numbers 2 and 3 and they have something in common with many situations.

For example: maybe there's only 5 women (2 women plus 3 women)...or, creepier yet, maybe theres a woman and a dog (2) and there's Jack and Gia and Vicki (3). Together, they may all represent the Earth against both the the Ally and the Otherness.

As I said, Creepy.

-Wapitikev

The way I read the books, it seemed like it "was" the otherness killing off his loved ones. The insinuation was very high in "Gateways" when Rasalom told Jack he wanted to see him suffer, that it would be like a fine wine. But in "Harbingers" it was discovered that it was the ally trimming his branches. (all the better for the R-guy) Also remember that in "Gateways" that Jack needed to go to Florida to get a major piece to the puzzle that fit in "Crisscross". But if you look at it one way, the ladies may have been responsible for Jacks presence in Florida. After all, he learned more about them in that book than in all the other books combined. But I doubt it. I prefer the theory that they are strategical placing themselves in these situations to help educate and help Jack because they have recognized him as a pawn that could be a king in this battle for Earth. And they want to win too. (I'm sure by any means necessary)


The "freaks in the creek" where definitely otherness tainted. IMO (I want to say by way of Monroe, but I'm not sure) Although by using the see shells (Yes, I meant see) to "remote view" and influence the behavior of animals kinda smacks of the ladies, (didn't she get the shells from an old woman?) but the allie or the adversary could be responsible for it also.

DISCLAIMER: This post was typed from my memory and after a 6 pack of beer.

I was thinking that Anya had influenced Jack's dad into moving to Florida. She said that she occasionally worked in the office for Gateways South sending out brochures. So she sends one to Tom, arranges it so Tom gets the house next to hers and she puts up the invisible writing on the outside walls of Tom's house to keep it protected. Plus Tom had no idea why he packed up and moved 1500 miles away from all of his kids and grandkids. So Anya moved Tom down there because she knew what the Ally was going to do and wanted to protect him.

The freaks were the result of a burst of Otherness from the nexus point/ cenote in the Everglades. Semelee got her eye-shells from an old Indian (by that I mean Native American) woman at the funeral of the father (who was a Native American as well) she never knew. She assumes the woman was a relative. But due to mutations, being drawn to the nexus point and the feeling of being at home there... It's the same situation with The Peabody-Ozymandias Traveling Circus and Oddity Emporium. So I'd say Semelee and her clan are Otherness related.

[SIZE="3"]Listen to Libby. In some of you others, I sense a need to reread.[/SIZE]

I volunteer! Just...could...someone send me some books? Kinda broke here.

It's been a while since I picked up a book (still working on final edits here) but as soon as I can, I'm getting all of the Man's books purchased and read over and over and over again!

Ciao

The 23 phenomenon is not about math...it is about the numbers 2 and 3. The fact that .2 and .3 have a decimal in front of them have no effect on the fact that the numeral 2 and 3 are there...they've just been divided by 10. One of the main things that make it creepy is that you can use any permutation or combination of the numbers 2 and 3 and they have something in common with many situations.

For example: maybe there's only 5 women (2 women plus 3 women)...or, creepier yet, maybe theres a woman and a dog (2) and there's Jack and Gia and Vicki (3). Together, they may all represent the Earth against both the the Ally and the Otherness.

As I said, Creepy.

-Wapitikev

The way I remeber things like page number ect... is to connect them some how with the time 4:20, the time to smoke pot. Not that I smoke pot, but it is a memerable time. It always works. Just be creative, pick a reasonable number and it is the same thing. Granted, you don't need to be creative to make 23 work that way, and it it creepy that the are every where, but if you look hard enough, you will find it.

The way I remeber things like page number ect... is to connect them some how with the time 4:20, the time to smoke pot. Not that I smoke pot, but it is a memerable time. It always works. Just be creative, pick a reasonable number and it is the same thing. Granted, you don't need to be creative to make 23 work that way, and it it creepy that the are every where, but if you look hard enough, you will find it.

True, any reasonable number can always be found if you're looking for it. I first heard about '23' about 13 years ago when I was reading Illuminati conspiracy books. But I'm always on the lookout for '42'- the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything. I am such a nerd.

True, any reasonable number can always be found if you're looking for it. I first heard about '23' about 13 years ago when I was reading Illuminati conspiracy books. But I'm always on the lookout for '42'- the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything. I am such a nerd.

It was a great loss when DA shuffled off this mortal coil.

-Wapitikev