Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Well, I'd say TR was prescient: the USA should muscle up.
"Muscle up?" How? By turning this country into a dictatorship?
The guy was a psychopath, and hated the idea of other people being free.
Quote:The Enlightenment Civilization was heading for a smash. As it did, the effects of which are still with us. It might have been better for the Allies and the Central Powers to fight to a peace of exhaustion.
Are you still talking about T.R., or World War I?
The "enlightened civilization" you're speaking of was heavily influenced by the Second Communist International.
If it's WWI you're talking about, they did just that; fight to exhaustion. Then Wilson stepped in and drew it out longer. Russia was about to quit, but Wilson promised the Czar supplies to keep him in the war, and before that finally came to pass, the severely weakened Czarist government fell and the Communists took over.
The primary reason so many people seemed to hate Germany was because the German Communists who were elected to office didn't follow through on their promise to cause a general strike in Germany (to shut down the war) as they had promised at the Second Communist International.
This outraged American Communists like Upton Sinclair, who wanted Germany destroyed because of this failure.
By the way, Robert Heinlein was heavily involved in Sinclair's campaign for Governor of California in 1934. Something which Heinlein tried to erase all knowledge of.
Quote:I don't know. Still, it wasn't in the cards. After losses beyond imagination on each side, someone was gonna win and someone was gonna lose. Otherwise, it would been for...nothing.
It WAS for nothing! In fact, it was for worse than nothing!
As I said, America's entry into the war prolonged the conflict, created the situation which allowed the Communists to gain power in Russia and victimized Germany, which led to the rise of Hitler. America had no stake in that war . . . no dog in that fight . . . no business being there. U.S. entry turned a European war into World War, and only made matters worse.
Quote: And that would have been to monstrous to contemplate, for the civilians on each side. After the US entered the war in April 1917, the deal was done. The Allies would win. Was it "our war?" Again, beats the shit out of me.
I know, that's why I recommended those books which I'm sure you will never read.
Quote:It became it.
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Quote:And, hey, kids, you thought =this= was fun? Just a =warm=up! Check back in 20 years for some =real= action!
Do you mean information which shows that Bush was as stupid as Wilson? I think we already know that.
Ken V.