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jimbow8   05-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Lisa Wrote:I think my favorite part of this episode was when he was tied to the tree and yelling at Jack not to use the phone, and Rousseau casually whacks him in the face to shut him up. LOLOL.
My favorite was when Sayid snapped the guys neck with his legs. I stood up and clapped.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
jimbow8   05-25-2007, 09:27 PM
Maggers Wrote:The flash forward, or whatever it was, of Jack is not necessarily something that did happen or will happen. It may happen.

The bearded, drug addict Jack is desperate to get back to the Island, but he can't. It's like Shangri-La. It doesn't exist in our world. The Island exists in its own little bubble of time, out of sync with our world.

With the Island in a time warp, it's possible that Jack's father is still alive, that maybe Kate hadn't yet killed her father. It opens up limitless possibilities. Limitless "what ifs."
Maybe the island allows them to travel the space/time continuum. Therefore certain actions on the island could change past events so that Jack's dad would never have died, or Kate would never have killed her dad. That could explain why Locke got back use of his legs (and lost them again for a period), how Juliette's sister alternated between having and not having cancer, etc.

It might also explain why so many survivors have linked pasts: the mere fact that they landed on the island together changed the past so that their lives intermingled.
This post was last modified: 05-25-2007, 09:29 PM by jimbow8.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
cobalt   05-26-2007, 12:42 AM
Or was Walt actually Jacob in another form .... or the swarm creature?[/QUOTE] JIMBOW


Now that is an idea!

EWMAN
Maggers   05-26-2007, 01:58 AM
jimbow8 Wrote:I wondered that as well. Or after that, why didn't he swim out the blown porthole?
I thought about that, too, but the force of the water coming in would keep him in the hatch until it equalized, and by then it might have been too late to make it back to the surface. Or Charlie just really wanted Desmond's vision to come true so that Claire would get on the helicopter with the baby and be rescued. Of course, she could wind up on the helicopter sent from the ship and it could be filled with bad guys, as Ben kept saying. But we know he lies like a rug. At any rate, Claire getting on a helicopter doesn't necessarily mean she's saved.


Quote:Or was Walt actually Jacob in another form .... or the swarm creature?
I thought that might be so, also. All of the familiar people or creatures seen by various folks on the island may be Jacob's way of getting into their minds and providing them with a vision that's not threatening. Of course, Walt had some special power himself, power that Ben wanted to tap, maybe to communicate with Jacob. Maybe that's why they took Walt in the first place - that and the Others desperate need for children.

Walt and Michael will make a return at some point, even more of a return than we saw last episode.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

ccosborne3   05-27-2007, 11:45 AM
Maggers Wrote:The flash forward, or whatever it was, of Jack is not necessarily something that did happen or will happen. It may happen.

I think they pulled the old switcheroo on us. Jack's story was the present, the action on the island was the flashback. They just jumped ahead six months or so in the story timeline. When it kicks off next year I expect the first four or five episodes will be about the main characters trying to get back to the island.
Auskar   05-27-2007, 07:02 PM
ccosborne3 Wrote:I think they pulled the old switcheroo on us. Jack's story was the present, the action on the island was the flashback. They just jumped ahead six months or so in the story timeline. When it kicks off next year I expect the first four or five episodes will be about the main characters trying to get back to the island.
That's sort of in line with my idea, too. They jump ahead and "Escape from Lost Island" becomes the flashbacks.
Dave F   05-27-2007, 08:05 PM
jimbow8 Wrote:My favorite was when Sayid snapped the guys neck with his legs. I stood up and clapped.

I agree with you Jimbow

Sayid is fantastic, and I loved that bit

The artist formally known as Britfan
saynomore   05-27-2007, 11:06 PM
Jack wants back to the island. If Ben is dead (in the coffin) and has taken the way back to the island to his grave, then Jack cannot get back, and thus becomes suicidal.

Kate may also know how to return the island but refuses to do so, which is why he begs her to return to the island and tries so contact her so frequently.

Why didn't Desmond grab an air-tank and jump into the water and pass it to Charlie?

Jack's dad may in fact still be alive because the coffin Jack was bringing home was empty.

The Dharma Initiative folk are not the hostiles. The Jacob/Island produced visions are not the hostiles. Have we really seen the hostiles...yet?

According to the producers of LOST, the final season will deal with the main characters changing for the better, and how the island is guiding them toward this change with tests and trials.

Actor who plays Locke has sold his home in Hawaii. What can we make of this?

AC

P.S. Thank you for your time. One more thought: For those of you who have seen the film "Strange Behavior," doesn't the Dharma Initiative remind you of the Research Dept. at the university in the movie?
Maggers   05-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Britfan Wrote:I agree with you Jimbow

Sayid is fantastic, and I loved that bit

After watching it again, I have to agree with you boys. My oh my, Sayid is ... *sigh* ... just wonderful.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   05-27-2007, 11:10 PM
ccosborne3 Wrote:I think they pulled the old switcheroo on us. Jack's story was the present, the action on the island was the flashback. They just jumped ahead six months or so in the story timeline. When it kicks off next year I expect the first four or five episodes will be about the main characters trying to get back to the island.

I love the Island. I love watching action on the Island. I tolerate the flashbacks, and now it seems flash fowards, because they are informative. But the Island is so interesting and so lovely and so not of this world that I would hate to have the series rooted in life back on everyone's respective mainlands.

I say fiddlesticks to that, though you could very well be right.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

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