...pretty self-explanatory, but for even further clarity: this is a thread for those of us RJ Forum regulars who, despite the infamous *drunken* exploits of Mel Gibson, still find said actor/director to be too damn talented to lose interest in.

I have no idea where this thread will go (at this point it's prettymuch like a balloon that has been untied and left to go on its farting flight in random directions around a room), but I thought in lieu of a pretty successful opening of Apocalypto, Mel Gibson deserves his popularity in this corner of the Internet.

And so...um...there!

As a person, I might have questions about palling around with Mel Gibson. But I can separate his personal life from his professional life. As a movie maker and actor, I'll judge each work he creates as I choose to see it.

Haven't seen "Apocolypto" yet.

The truth of it is we'd throw out our televisions and never go th any movie if we made an issue out of people's personal lives.

Mel Gibson was a piker when you compare him to Henry Ford. Hitler gave him a Man of the Year award.

...pretty self-explanatory, but for even further clarity: this is a thread for those of us RJ Forum regulars who, despite the infamous *drunken* exploits of Mel Gibson, still find said actor/director to be too damn talented to lose interest in.

I have no idea where this thread will go (at this point it's prettymuch like a balloon that has been untied and left to go on its farting flight in random directions around a room), but I thought in lieu of a pretty successful opening of Apocalypto, Mel Gibson deserves his popularity in this corner of the Internet.

And so...um...there!

The flick did very well on its first day--4.5 million--but I suspect that coin flowed from stone Gibson fans and the art-house crowd. It's not the type of film that Southern evangelist churches rented theaters for the faithful to see. Jesus, sure. Heads bouncing down stone steps...maybe not quite the same cultural appeal. We'll see.

Mel Gibson was a piker when you compare him to Henry Ford. Hitler gave him a Man of the Year award.

Two Jewish engineers, Norm Greenbaum and Max Goldstein, invented an air conditioner that could fit into a car, way back in the 1920s! They put their prototype in a Model T, then contacted Henry Ford to try and sell him on the new feature.

Henry Ford was amazed. "This is a fantastic, I want to put one of these in all my cars," he said. "What do you want for the patent?"

Norm Greenbaum spoke up, he said, "One million dollars for each of us." "Well, that's an awful lot of money, but OK, I really want this for my cars," said Ford. "One other thing," said Max Goldstein, "we want our names on every unit you put in every car." "Otherwise, the deal's off!"

Well, Henry Ford was fit to be tied. Here he was, a vehement anti-Semite, and not only did he have to shell out two million bucks, but he had to put the names of two Jews on the AC unit in each one of his cars.

Still, he was crafty and managed to get around them, he only used their first names!

Two Jewish engineers, Norm Greenbaum and Max Goldstein, invented an air conditioner that could fit into a car, way back in the 1920s! They put their prototype in a Model T, then contacted Henry Ford to try and sell him on the new feature.

Henry Ford was amazed. "This is a fantastic, I want to put one of these in all my cars," he said. "What do you want for the patent?"

Norm Greenbaum spoke up, he said, "One million dollars for each of us." "Well, that's an awful lot of money, but OK, I really want this for my cars," said Ford. "One other thing," said Max Goldstein, "we want our names on every unit you put in every car." "Otherwise, the deal's off!"

Well, Henry Ford was fit to be tied. Here he was, a vehement anit-Semite, and not only did he have to shell out two million bucks, but he had to put the names of two Jews on the AC unit in each one of his cars.

Still, he was crafty and managed to get around them, he only used their first names!

I canna believe that, Joe!

I canna believe that, Joe!

Are you Mike O'Lindner now? Drinkin' Guinness won't make you Irish (you have to mainline it for that).

When me own ancestors came over from Eire, back during the Great Beer Famine, our family name was shortened at Ellis Island (it used to be O'Schmidt).

Are you Mike O'Lindner now? Drinkin' Guinness won't make you Irish (you have to mainline it for that).

When me own ancestors came over from Eire, back during the Great Beer Famine, our family name was shortened at Ellis Island (it used to be O'Schmidt).

Actually, Joe, I was indeed raised by an Irish foster-family, and weren't Gramp and Gram fresh off the boat, then? (Well, at that time, they'd been here awhile.) So that kind of speech cadence comes natural to me, sure, it's how Oi learned to express me vice. And add a few years at St. Anthony's Catholic School in Greenpoint, it's a wonder then Oi'm not among the heathens with a Boible in me mitt.

The truth of it is we'd throw out our televisions and never go th any movie if we made an issue out of people's personal lives.

Mel Gibson was a piker when you compare him to Henry Ford. Hitler gave him a Man of the Year award.

An excellent point, Gerald. The person isn't the product.

Still, it makes me a little uncomfortable to know when I'm paying for something made by someone who may be a pretty rotten person.

...pretty self-explanatory, but for even further clarity: this is a thread for those of us RJ Forum regulars who, despite the infamous *drunken* exploits of Mel Gibson, still find said actor/director to be too damn talented to lose interest in.

I have no idea where this thread will go (at this point it's prettymuch like a balloon that has been untied and left to go on its farting flight in random directions around a room), but I thought in lieu of a pretty successful opening of Apocalypto, Mel Gibson deserves his popularity in this corner of the Internet.

And so...um...there!

I like Mel Gibson and plan on seeing this movie. I find it hilarious people are more concerned about what he said while being drunk, than driving drunk. Too funny.