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Auskar   12-26-2006, 05:19 PM
#41
NewYorkjoe Wrote:I watched part of "Dr. No" this weekend (on Spike TV), right through the scene where the metallugist meets his downfall. First thing I noticed is that while Bond is screwing on the silencer, there is a close up of his hands. The FN (Fabrique Nationale) emblem is plain on the right-side grip panel. Therefore, the pistol he uses must be an FN 1910, as answers.com stated. It does look a lot like a Walther PP. Bond takes several revolutions to screw the silencer on, but when he takes it off, it looks like maybe a half and then he pulls it free. The metallurgist fires six shots into the bed and the dialog is just as you said it was, plus how the empty, locked-open pistol recocked itself once he dropped it on the rug (also as you stated). No Walther PP is listed on answers.com for Dr. No.

Your normal movie-goer is not an arms expert, nor am I. I just want to watch the movie, suspend disbelief, and enjoy the show.
law dawg   12-26-2006, 06:47 PM
#42
Auskar Wrote:Your normal movie-goer is not an arms expert, nor am I. I just want to watch the movie, suspend disbelief, and enjoy the show.
Yeah, but they need to obey the laws of physics. An empty gun can't magically reload itself (unless its a magic gun! Wink), etc.
Ken Valentine   12-26-2006, 09:55 PM
#43
NewYorkjoe Wrote:I watched part of "Dr. No" this weekend (on Spike TV), right through the scene where the metallugist meets his downfall. First thing I noticed is that while Bond is screwing on the silencer, there is a close up of his hands. The FN (Fabrique Nationale) emblem is plain on the right-side grip panel. Therefore, the pistol he uses must be an FN 1910, as answers.com stated.

I barely noticed his right hand in that scene, but I think you're right. I have a Walther PP in .380, and going by memory, the grips didn't look the same. I also have two PPK's, one in .380 and the other in 32 ACP. Neither of which looks as large as what he used in the film.

Quote:It does look a lot like a Walther PP. Bond takes several revolutions to screw the silencer on, but when he takes it off, it looks like maybe a half and then he pulls it free.

Exactly! To me, it looks like he is twisting on the silencer with a taper fit -- which doesn't make sense, but then this is a movie and not remotely real.

Quote:The metallurgist fires six shots into the bed and the dialog is just as you said it was, plus how the empty, locked-open pistol recocked itself once he dropped it on the rug (also as you stated).

Well, it was an auto-loader, and the slide could have been jarred out of slide lock when it hit the floor, and the hammer would be in a cocked position if that were the case.

By the way, I don't think that was a rug. It looked to me like it was the bed spread that Bond tossed onto the floor when he made up the pillows to look like the bed was occupied. I dug out my old VHS copy of the film and slow-motioned through those parts.

Also, in the opening scenes, it looked like Strangways was shot -- by the first of the "three blind mice" -- with a Colt 1911, with a funny-looking silencer attached.

When Bond places his Beretta .25 on M's desk, it looks a lot larger than the "vest-pocket" Beretta .25 that I'm familiar with. But that could have something to do with the kind of lens that was used to film the scene. I kind of doubt it though.

Here's a photo of the Beretta .25 from the WW-II era. It's just like the .25 caliber Beretta "Minx" that I own.

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/gal...0/2130.htm

The overall length of the pistol is 4-5/8 inches and the overall height is 3-3/8 inches . . . really small.

Quote:No Walther PP is listed on answers.com for Dr. No.

That doesn't surprise me, although someone recently -- I think it was on this board -- posted that the Walther which was used by Connery in Dr. No, was sold at auction recently, and that it was actually a Walther PP.

Ken V.
Ken Valentine   12-26-2006, 10:04 PM
#44
Auskar Wrote:Your normal movie-goer is not an arms expert, nor am I. I just want to watch the movie, suspend disbelief, and enjoy the show.

I understand that. But for myself, I can suspend disbelief only so much, and beyond that, it gets annoying.

Ken V.
Kenji   12-29-2006, 07:58 AM
#45
Today I saw Casino Royale. The storyline/plot was pretty good. Paul Haggis did good work like "Crash" and "Letters from Iwo Jima". I enjoyed the movie. One problem was 144 min. It was too long.

Daniel Craig was............hmm, well, He has common looks, so he is good as the spy. But not good as James Bond. That's my personal opinion.






Oh, and...villain in CR, Mads Mikkelsen as Le Chiffre was terrible actor.
Maggers   12-30-2006, 01:19 AM
#46
I enjoyed "Casino Royale" for what it was, a re-telling of the Bond tale from the point of view of a junior Bond, if you will. Given the fact that the Bond movies have been around for 40 years, it was a bit distracting for me to think of this new Baby Bond having cell phones and lap tops at his fingertips. But I went with it.

The opening chase was terrific and about as low tech as you could get...running! The movie delivered what it was supposed to, thrills and a sexy new James Bond with a body to die for. I feared greatly for the Bond "crown jewels," but apparently Bond survived the roughhousing without too much difficulty. That was one painful scene to witness. OUCH!

I like Daniel Craig as Bond and hope to see more of him, in every way imaginable. Big Grin

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Scott Hajek   01-09-2007, 12:26 AM
#47
Finally saw this movie on Saturday. Didn't expect to see it in the theater, but my wife surprised me with a movie night... what a great date!

Regarding the movie... Daniel Craig is the best Bond ever! This movie sets the new standard for realism in spy movies. It was great to see Bond get his ass kicked. No more super hero spies. I don't think I've been this anxious to see a sequel in a long, long time.

Scott Hajek

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Auskar   01-09-2007, 01:00 AM
#48
'Nuff said!"
GunslingerAW   01-09-2007, 11:56 AM
#49
Gotta agree.

Best Bond Ever. And the final line of the movie, what a way to end it.
NewYorkjoe   01-10-2007, 11:09 AM
#50
Auskar Wrote:Your normal movie-goer is not an arms expert, nor am I. I just want to watch the movie, suspend disbelief, and enjoy the show.

between two gunnies, Ken and myself. Nobody expects you (or the average moviegoer) to pick up on these esoteric innaccuracies (and it will not be on the blue book exam). I imagine that Ken and I grew up watching Westerns where the hero's 6-shooter never was empty and was never reloaded. I've been looking for one of those "magic guns" at gunshows for a long, long time, but they must all still be in Hollywood property departments! Wink

I wonder if they will remake another Bond flick? My vote would be "From Russia With Love." That was always my favorite. Robert Shaw would be hard to beat as Red Grant, though.

BTW, they seem to have remade "The Hitcher," with Sean Bean in the Rutger Hauer role. Bean did a creditable job as 008 in Goldeneye (taken from a Fleming title, but not a Bond novel). Also, Bean was fantastic in the "Sharpe's Rifles" series.

Then out spoke brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate: "To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late; And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods,"
"Well, John Henry said to the Cap'n, "A man ain't nuthin' but a man. But, before I let that steam drill beat me, gonna die with my hammer in my hand, Lawd, Lawd, gonna die with my hammer in my hand."
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