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Biggles   09-14-2005, 05:04 PM
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Ossicle Wrote:Isn't the PT11 jam-prone?

If you mean the P11, I've never had a malfunction of any kind, even when new.

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law dawg   09-15-2005, 04:52 PM
#12
Biggles Wrote:If you mean the P11, I've never had a malfunction of any kind, even when new.
I've heard its a fine weapon, although as a rule I am not big 9mm fan. I prefer a little more stopping power. YMMV.
Ossicle   09-16-2005, 01:26 PM
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Biggles Wrote:If you mean the P11, I've never had a malfunction of any kind, even when new.

Sorry, I did mean the P11, I was confusing it with the PT-109, JFK's carry. Big Grin
Ossicle   09-16-2005, 01:39 PM
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law dawg Wrote:I've heard its a fine weapon, although as a rule I am not big 9mm fan. I prefer a little more stopping power. YMMV.

What are some good guns of a similar size that have more stopping power, e.g., .45s?
law dawg   09-16-2005, 06:17 PM
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Ossicle Wrote:What are some good guns of a similar size that have more stopping power, e.g., .45s?
Any of the small Glocks (27, 33 or 30/36 et. al.) in .40, .357 or .45 are excellent choices and I could hide one VERY easily. They might be a bit heavier but you need that heaviness to lessen the recoil.

I am a huge Glock fan because they are 1) simple (they have 50% less components than most guns), and 2) interchangeable. The full magazine of a full-size Glock will fit in the compact model, although the mag will stick out of the bottom a bit. Still, it is good to only have to carry one set of magazines for your main and backup weapon.

The best system out there, IMO, even if my agency doesn't let us carry them. Sad <sigh> I guess my Sig will have to suffice.....
KRW   09-19-2005, 09:29 PM
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law dawg Wrote:I've heard its a fine weapon, although as a rule I am not big 9mm fan. I prefer a little more stopping power. YMMV.

That's cause you're a terrible shot! Wink
Anders Monsen   09-19-2005, 11:43 PM
#17
Any more specifics on the Tokarev 9mm in Legacies? Russian TT33? Chinese variant?
Biggles   09-20-2005, 06:18 PM
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Anders Monsen Wrote:Any more specifics on the Tokarev 9mm in Legacies? Russian TT33? Chinese variant?

The Chinese (Norinco) made a 9mm version of the TT33 for export to the US. When I bought my Chinese Tokarev, I got it in the original 7.62x25mm. Quite frankly, a low capacity (8 rounds?) single stack single action 9mm didn't fit my needs. It was really a piece of crap anyway (IMHO). Soon thereafter I bought a CZ52 in 7.62 Tokarev. Now that's a nice gun! If hollowpoints were generally available, the 7.62Tok would be a decent round--flat trajectory, high velocity (especially the Czech ammo in the CZ52). You could hand load the 110 grain JHP bullets normally used in the .30 Carbine round into the 7.62Tok and have a nice stopper. Ken Valentine should try this.

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Biggles   09-20-2005, 06:20 PM
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Ossicle Wrote:Sorry, I did mean the P11, I was confusing it with the PT-109, JFK's carry. Big Grin

The PT-109 was a great weapon--could sink a destroyer--but alas very difficult to conceal! Big Grin

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Bluesman Mike Lindner   09-20-2005, 06:29 PM
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Ossicle Wrote:Sorry, I did mean the P11, I was confusing it with the PT-109, JFK's carry. Big Grin

Haw! Was that the Grassy Knoll Special, Biggles?
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