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Ken Valentine   11-28-2010, 11:29 PM
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The Mad American Wrote:That was my path to the book and FPW as well. So yeah, as bad as it is when held up to the book, at least it got me here.
There seems to be something of a trend here. Most of those who saw the movie first liked it, (Cobalt, Jimbow and so on) those of us who had read the book first, hated the movie.

Ken V.
webby   11-29-2010, 12:01 AM
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Karithna Wrote:I got on Netflix today (on the instant watch) and there was The Keep. It was too hard to watch on Youtube, so that solved that. I'm gonna pop me up some corn, grab a brew and watch a butchered novel!!

I tried the Netflix stream and the movie was unwatchable on several levels.

The sound was HORRIBLE. Dialog was almost inaudible while the background music and incidental sounds (chairs scraping on floors, etc) were deafening. Whoever transferred the film to DVD did a terrible job with the soundtrack.

Maybe if the sound levels were better I wouldn't have noticed this as much, but the Tangerine Dream musical score was totally inappropriate for the subject matter. The music is supposed to help set the mood and draw you in on a subconscious level. In this movie, just the opposite happened.

Is Michael Mann a vampire? He certainly sucked the life out of that story! No matter how open-minded I tried to be, there was just nothing in that movie to make me care about anything that happened.

I had to turn if off halfway through. I couldn't stand one more minute of it. What a travesty!

Ken Valentine Wrote:There seems to be something of a trend here. Most of those who saw the movie first liked it, (Cobalt, Jimbow and so on) those of us who had read the book first, hated the movie.

Ken V.

You're most likely right, but I have a hard time believing I could have liked this movie under any circumstances. I'm just glad it wasn't my first exposure to FPW. I might not be here today if that was the case! :eek:

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Bluesman Mike Lindner   11-29-2010, 12:05 AM
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webby Wrote:I tried the Netflix stream and the movie was unwatchable on several levels.

The sound was HORRIBLE. Dialog was almost inaudible while the background music and incidental sounds (chairs scraping on floors, etc) were deafening. Whoever transferred the film to DVD did a terrible job with the soundtrack.

Maybe if the sound levels were better I wouldn't have noticed this as much, but the Tangerine Dream musical score was totally inappropriate for the subject matter. The music is supposed to help set the mood and draw you in on a subconscious level. In this movie, just the opposite happened.

Is Michael Mann a vampire? He certainly sucked the life out of that story! No matter how open-minded I tried to be, there was just nothing in that movie to make me care about anything that happened.

I had to turn if off halfway through. I couldn't stand one more minute of it. What a travesty!



You're most likely right, but I have a hard time believing I could have liked this movie under any circumstances. I'm just glad it wasn't my first exposure to FPW. I might not be here today if that was the case! :eek:

I hate to criticize Paul's stuff--he's a writer's writer, in the same way Paul Simon is a songwriter's songwriter--but the filmed MIDNIGHT MASS...aw, Jeez...
The Mad American   11-29-2010, 01:12 AM
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Ken Valentine Wrote:There seems to be something of a trend here. Most of those who saw the movie first liked it, (Cobalt, Jimbow and so on) those of us who had read the book first, hated the movie.

Ken V.

I agree Ken. I think if I had read the book first I probably would have loathed the movie but I came at it from the other direction so I didn't have any preconceived ideas of what the movie should have been.

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Ken Valentine   11-29-2010, 04:20 AM
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The Mad American Wrote:I agree Ken. I think if I had read the book first I probably would have loathed the movie but I came at it from the other direction so I didn't have any preconceived ideas of what the movie should have been.
That makes sense.

Ken V.
Alvin Fox   11-29-2010, 07:47 AM
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webby Wrote:The sound was HORRIBLE. Dialog was almost inaudible while the background music and incidental sounds (chairs scraping on floors, etc) were deafening. Whoever transferred the film to DVD did a terrible job with the soundtrack.

I think whoever did that realized that most people will turn the sound of the movie off in order to hear the special commentary.
fpw   11-29-2010, 03:22 PM
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AlvinFox Wrote:I think whoever did that realized that most people will turn the sound of the movie off in order to hear the special commentary.
Better not to. We have a lot of fun with the dialogue.

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Monquito   11-30-2010, 12:39 AM
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Yeah, the film was utter shite, but....

- the silver crosses scene was great
- Jurgen Prochnow was in it
- it was hearing all the "film terrible, book great" chatter that made me read The Keep in the first place.....then I saw the whole movie later

Worst part about the movie? Molasar the Vader Gorilla. Hahaha. Oh dear god
GeraldRice   11-30-2010, 01:05 PM
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I remember when I was a kid, TV Guide listed this movie coming on in a few days as having 4 stars. That was The Keep.

I just looked this up with my library to see if I could order it. I only remembered Scott Glenn, but this was a pretty impressive cast. Ian McKellan, Gabriel Byrne, Jurgen Prochnow. It's only on videocassette, so I'm going to have to haul out the VCR. But that's after someone else returns it. I wonder who that is?

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Blades   12-04-2010, 12:32 AM
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Karithna Wrote:Indeed! Me too. I also still listen to Tangerine Dream.

That is why I watch "Thief", to hear Tangerine Dream, and enjoy a better movie.

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