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Bluesman Mike Lindner   03-13-2010, 12:06 PM
#51
Kenji Wrote:Today, finally I saw Sherlock Holmes, and....


"Wow! This is GREAT!"

Yes, I enjoyed it a lot. This is exactly entertainment movie!

Robert Downey Jr. did great job. If they make sequel with same cast and same staff, I'm really looking forward to it. Perhaps, we'll see [SPOILER]Holmes vs. Professor Moriarty. [/SPOILER] Big Grin

I've heard good things about the flick, but for Little Blues (such an antique hombre), Holmes and Watson will always be Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce. :neutral:
Yeratel   03-13-2010, 01:33 PM
#52
Warner Brothers already has a script for a sequel, but it remains to be seen if the cast and the financing will come together. Brad Pitt has been mentioned as a top choice for Moriarty, as has Alan Rickman.
wdg3rd   03-13-2010, 01:58 PM
#53
I missed this thread the first time around.

Jeremy Brett was the best Holmes to date. Period. Rathbone's portrayal makes me cringe, though he was a fine actor in many other roles.

There is no mention of cocaine in any canon story that takes place after the Great Hiatus.

Lazenby was the Bond closest to the image I got from reading the books. Connery was a poser, and all of the others worse.

Holmes and Watson were both around thirty when they got together. Watson was retired from the army, but the reason was medical, not chronological. A Jezail bullet was involved.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hugh Laurie try the role. He's got a lot of range as an actor. He's great as House, he was great as Bertram Wooster (though some of the later Jeeves and Wooster scripts were a bit of a disappointment to this Wodehouse fan).

Yes, Christopher Lee was in a hell of a lot of movies. (My favorite being The Magic Christian). Though there are some folks in the porn industry who may have beaten him (Ron Jeremy comes to mind).

To any Holmes fan, I recommend tracking down copies of Sherlock Holmes of Baker Street by William S. Baring-Gould and The Annotated Sherlock Holmes (annotations by Baring-Gould).

Ward Griffiths

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Sigokat   05-26-2010, 12:43 PM
#54
Finally watched Sherlock Holmes for the first time last night. It was good and entertaining, but they did go a little far with some of the aspects of Holmes canon.

The relationship with Holmes and Irene Adler was far off-base. Irene Adler was NOT an American nor was she a ass-kicking criminal.

Holmes was always more about the facts and science and logic involved in the cases he took and not the adventure and had even admonished Watson for "romantizing" the chronicles of his work.

They seemed to try to throw in a bunch of famous Holmes quotes and a few did not work well within the scenes they were spoken and at least one was misquoted.

I was surprised to see that Dr. Watson walked with a limp which was accurate to his character from the books, having been wounded in India while he served in the British Army there.

Overall, entertaining and fun to watch, but not very accurate to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories.

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Sam   05-28-2010, 06:56 AM
#55
Mick C. Wrote:Ever notice the address on House's apartment? 221B.

When he was shot by an assailant (Elias Kotteas) at the end of a season, they never identified him by name in the episode but he was listed as "Moriarty" in the credits.

The House/Wilson relationship is also quite close to Holmes/Watson.

Heh, I didn't notice the apt. number or the Moriarty reference to Kotteas' character. How did I miss that? The Wilson/House relationship as compared to Holmes/Watson was, for me, unmistakable. I wonder if Amber was their nod to Irene Adler. I think House would have fallen hard for her. She was the only one who could play the game just as well as he could, if not better.

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Sam   05-28-2010, 07:08 AM
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sigokat Wrote:Finally watched Sherlock Holmes for the first time last night. It was good and entertaining, but they did go a little far with some of the aspects of Holmes canon.

The relationship with Holmes and Irene Adler was far off-base. Irene Adler was NOT an American nor was she a ass-kicking criminal.

Holmes was always more about the facts and science and logic involved in the cases he took and not the adventure and had even admonished Watson for "romantizing" the chronicles of his work.

They seemed to try to throw in a bunch of famous Holmes quotes and a few did not work well within the scenes they were spoken and at least one was misquoted.

I was surprised to see that Dr. Watson walked with a limp which was accurate to his character from the books, having been wounded in India while he served in the British Army there.

Overall, entertaining and fun to watch, but not very accurate to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories.

Agreed on all points.

And I would like to thank you for bringing up Jeremy Brett. I am in the process of obtaining all his Holmes episodes and I have enjoyed every one of them so far. And you were also right to say that no one can compare.

I have a couple of Holmes shows starring Peter Cushing. He's not too damn bad at all, but lacks those little mannerisms that Brett gave to the character which made him Holmes.

"The nose of a mob is its imagination. By this, at any time, it can be quietly led." - Edgar Allan Poe

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Agent K
Sam   05-28-2010, 07:11 AM
#57
Yeratel Wrote:Warner Brothers already has a script for a sequel, but it remains to be seen if the cast and the financing will come together. Brad Pitt has been mentioned as a top choice for Moriarty, as has Alan Rickman.

I'm... uh... you're kidding about Pitt getting a nod, right? I like Pitt but as Moriarty? Then again, if Ritchie does a 2nd film Pitt will most certainly get the role.

Now Rickman as Moriarty. Hell yes.

"The nose of a mob is its imagination. By this, at any time, it can be quietly led." - Edgar Allan Poe

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Agent K
bobkane   05-28-2010, 09:57 AM
#58
well Guy Ritchie hasn't got anythin planned so it would getting the cast to return and i hope it gets sorts asap so tehres no problems
webby   05-28-2010, 11:29 AM
#59
sigokat Wrote:Finally watched Sherlock Holmes for the first time last night. It was good and entertaining, but they did go a little far with some of the aspects of Holmes canon.

The relationship with Holmes and Irene Adler was far off-base. Irene Adler was NOT an American nor was she a ass-kicking criminal.

Holmes was always more about the facts and science and logic involved in the cases he took and not the adventure and had even admonished Watson for "romantizing" the chronicles of his work.

They seemed to try to throw in a bunch of famous Holmes quotes and a few did not work well within the scenes they were spoken and at least one was misquoted.

I was surprised to see that Dr. Watson walked with a limp which was accurate to his character from the books, having been wounded in India while he served in the British Army there.

Overall, entertaining and fun to watch, but not very accurate to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's original stories.

We finally watched this last night. Hated it.

I already knew not to expect much of anything like the books or the Brett series, so I was not disappointed in that respect. All I was hoping for was kind of a fun adventure/mystery flick loosely based on Holmes. But even going in with that attitude, this movie was so flawed I couldn't enjoy it on ANY level.

Besides all that, it didn't bode well right off the bat that the DVD had 15 - 20 minutes of previews you could not skip over. That alone put a negative light on the movie before it even started.

Sad

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Sam   05-28-2010, 12:45 PM
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webby Wrote:Besides all that, it didn't bode well right off the bat that the DVD had 15 - 20 minutes of previews you could not skip over. That alone put a negative light on the movie before it even started.

Sad

I've noticed this a few times with other movies. Maybe it's just a PITA ad strategy? Force us to watch them in hopes we'll see something of interest and rent it. If I'm not mistaken - and I am far too often - I think I solved this issue by hitting STOP twice, then the menu button, and it bypassed the previews. Been a while since I did that but I think it worked. My memory isn't too good. Smile

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