For your reference pleasure. You can always tell where the movie takes place by which Indians are referred to.

AC

P.S. About this time, this territory was called Mexico.

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1. McCabe and Mrs. Miller--overlooked great movie. (also The Ballad of Cable Hogue)

I have an old vhs copy of this film. I'd sure love to get it on dvd. It's aterrific film. Definitely my favorite Warren Beatty film. Again, the music on this film in intoxicating.

Hey, Ken.

The west was not discovered: It was raped and pillaged. That's why we protest Columbus Day, not revere it. Come 2010's census, the numbers should have the Latino stats above 55% in the big states; we already have over 50% in California, Texas, and Florida, with Arizona, New Mexico, and Washington in the 40% bracket. Manifest Destiny, my ass.

I didn't say anything about the west being "discovered."
What I effectively said was that at the time of the French and Indian War, (1754 to 1763, and called the Seven Years War in Europe) New York was "the west."

And decades later, when Horace Greeley said, "Go west young man, go west," he was talking about Illinois.

Furthermore, I don't give a fig about where someone's ancestors came from. I judge every individual on their own merits. But in case you're interested, the grand parents of nearly half the kids I went to junior high and high school with, fled Mexico during the Huerta regime.

And some few were american Indians, like Mitsy Means, who was born on the Rosebud Reservation, and Geronimo "Jerry" Pinon, who looked like a teenage Goyakla.

Ken V.

Lots of good movies posted here. My five:
[INDENT]1. Unforgiven
2. Shane
3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
4. The Magnificent Seven
5. Quigley Down Under
[/INDENT]

For your reference pleasure. You can always tell where the movie takes place by which Indians are referred to.

AC

P.S. About this time, this territory was called Mexico.

The Indians didn't call it Mexico nor America. What's your point?:confused:

Thank you for giving me the attention I so crave. When we take back our country, I'll be sure to save you a great seat at one of our casinos.

Since you're craving attention, I'll bite. Saynomore, what's your point?:neutral:

Lots of good movies posted here. My five:
[INDENT]1. Unforgiven
2. Shane
3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
4. The Magnificent Seven
5. Quigley Down Under
[/INDENT]

Welcome to the board LarDog. That is an excellent top five! I've seen some try to argue that since Quigly is in Australia that it doesn't qualify as a western. I say B.S. Quigley was a western man that went to Australia to apply his trade during the old west. That's my two bits. (I almost put "The Man From Snowy River" in my top five, but that was all Austalian.)

I didn't say anything about the west being "discovered."
What I effectively said was that at the time of the French and Indian War, (1754 to 1763, and called the Seven Years War in Europe) New York was "the west."

And decades later, when Horace Greeley said, "Go west young man, go west," he was talking about Illinois.

Furthermore, I don't give a fig about where someone's ancestors came from. I judge every individual on their own merits. But in case you're interested, the grand parents of nearly half the kids I went to junior high and high school with, fled Mexico during the Huerta regime.

And some few were american Indians, like Mitsy Means, who was born on the Rosebud Reservation, and Geronimo "Jerry" Pinon, who looked like a teenage Goyakla.

Ken V.

Sorry for the miscommunication. I was just saying "hi" to you then sequed to the "discovered west" referring to a post before yours. But, as usual, even in a miscommunication, you share a wealth of information. You, sir, are appropriately named "ken".

AC

P.S. Is your middle name "erudition"?

P.S. Is your middle name "erudition"?

No, but the "initial" would be correct.

Ken V.

The Indians didn't call it Mexico nor America. What's your point?:confused:

I am not referring to Indians alone. Mexicans, too, were in the way of the US expansion. Indians did not have a concept of owing the land. Mexicans did. Mexico extended into the territory on the map above, but western expansion chipped away at it until the Mexico we know today was all that was left. My point is: Latinos are growing so quickly in numbers that we are quietly taking back our territory. It's just a matter of time. And western movies indirectly refer to expansion. I tell my students of history that if they want to understand Manifest Destiny, just rent some westerns, especially Once Upon a Time in the West or Dances with Wolves. But I tell them to avoid The Alamo. Hollywood has yet to make that movie historically right.

AC