thisisatest   09-26-2008, 05:38 AM
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Steve D

After a summer break, I'm back to work. So far, my master's work has been outlined: The Paradigm Shift in Horror Literature/Pre and Post September 11, 2001. Thanks again to those who guided me with the older horror authors. HP Lovecraft, Stephen King, Robert Bloch, and Ray Bradbury make up the first three chapters of the book. I tried to select authors that only wrote prior to 9/11/01, those who have only written after 9/11, and those who have written in both eras. I am arguing that pre 9/11 horror is bolder than post 9/11. Pre has supernatural elements based on the "unknown," while post relies on suspense and mystery.

Which brings me to fpw.

The Adversary Cycle contains more elements of horror than the Repairman Jack series. The AC books contain more horror (for example, the horrors that Father Bill is subjected too). The RJ series deals more with loss, emotional misplacement, and conspiracies. Both series lead up to Nightworld, but their approaches differ, I believe, based on the time frame of 9/11.

If you would like to help, try to keep this thread on topic. How do the RJ books compare, book for book, with the AC series. Which RJ book compares to The Tomb, for instance? And so on.

I picked up a few fpw books at a dusty old bookshop in Pasadena, where I went with AC and his bro to see the latest Takashi Miilke film (a western, of all things). The books are Freak Show, The Healer, and Shock Rock. I'll be reading them (for the first time) to see if there's anything I can use for chapter four, which deals strictly with fpw's oeuvre. Thanks ahead of time for the help. Swing away. Criticism is most welcome. If I can't take it form you, how will I take it from my advisor?
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Bluesman Mike Lindner   09-28-2008, 09:38 PM
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thisisatest Wrote:Steve D

After a summer break, I'm back to work. So far, my master's work has been outlined: The Paradigm Shift in Horror Literature/Pre and Post September 11, 2001. Thanks again to those who guided me with the older horror authors. HP Lovecraft, Stephen King, Robert Bloch, and Ray Bradbury make up the first three chapters of the book. I tried to select authors that only wrote prior to 9/11/01, those who have only written after 9/11, and those who have written in both eras. I am arguing that pre 9/11 horror is bolder than post 9/11. Pre has supernatural elements based on the "unknown," while post relies on suspense and mystery.

Which brings me to fpw.

The Adversary Cycle contains more elements of horror than the Repairman Jack series. The AC books contain more horror (for example, the horrors that Father Bill is subjected too). The RJ series deals more with loss, emotional misplacement, and conspiracies. Both series lead up to Nightworld, but their approaches differ, I believe, based on the time frame of 9/11.

If you would like to help, try to keep this thread on topic. How do the RJ books compare, book for book, with the AC series. Which RJ book compares to The Tomb, for instance? And so on.

I picked up a few fpw books at a dusty old bookshop in Pasadena, where I went with AC and his bro to see the latest Takashi Miilke film (a western, of all things). The books are Freak Show, The Healer, and Shock Rock. I'll be reading them (for the first time) to see if there's anything I can use for chapter four, which deals strictly with fpw's oeuvre. Thanks ahead of time for the help. Swing away. Criticism is most welcome. If I can't take it form you, how will I take it from my advisor?

Do you have examples of horror writers who have been published =only= after The Attack, thisis? And do their works reflect 9/11? That might be a good area of investigation.

Paul's written about 9/11...guess THE HAUNTED AIR was the first. And certainly HARBINGERS. Why not ask Paul himself? I'm sure he'd help.
saynomore   09-28-2008, 09:48 PM
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Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Do you have examples of horror writers who have been published =only= after The Attack, thisis? And do their works reflect 9/11? That might be a good area of investigation.

Paul's written about 9/11...guess THE HAUNTED AIR was the first. And certainly HARBINGERS. Why not ask Paul himself? I'm sure he'd help.

I suggested the same thing since we're going to be at the Dark Delicacies signing in October. I even mentioned running it by Del, who compiles short stories for his anthologies. I'm sure he has a perspective about older and newer authors on the horror scene. We'll see.

AC

P.S. Gotta get my copy of Others dvd signed. Smile Come to think of it, I should have Dave and Marc sign it too. Am I leaving anyone out?
Bluesman Mike Lindner   09-28-2008, 09:59 PM
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saynomore Wrote:i suggested the same thing since we're going to be at the dark delicacies signing in october. I even mentioned running it by del, who compiles short stories for his anthologies. I'm sure he has a perspective about older and newer authors on the horror scene. We'll see.

Ac

p.s. Gotta get my copy of others dvd signed. Smile come to think of it, i should have dave and marc sign it too. Am i leaving anyone out?

only the engine upon whom the cycle is powered--dr. Roma
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fpw   09-28-2008, 10:23 PM
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thisisatest Wrote:The RJ series deals more with loss, emotional misplacement, and conspiracies. Both series lead up to Nightworld, but their approaches differ, I believe, based on the time frame of 9/11.
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You know...that's an interesting point. 9/11 profoundly affected me. I remember sitting there in Nantucket, trying to write The Haunted Air, and thinking,"WTF? This is bullshit. All the drama/suspense/shock/horror I could possibly invent is live on TV right now."

I never thought about / analyzed it, but since the new novel deals directly with that day and the reasons behind it, and is named Ground Zero, maybe you're onto something.[/SIZE]

FPW
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Alvin Fox   09-29-2008, 10:50 AM
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fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]I never thought about / analyzed it, but since the new novel deals directly with that day and the reasons behind it, and is named Ground Zero, maybe you're onto something.[/SIZE]

Great. Now I'm going to spend the next 8-9 months wondering how and if the Otherness ties into 9/11. Speaking of which... I'm going to head over to Gauntlet's site to see if there's a preorder yet... Ummm... No, not yet.
cobalt   09-29-2008, 11:35 AM
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I surely do love hints of things to come. Just how long do we have to wait before we can pre-order?

EWMAN
icarusflu   09-29-2008, 10:25 PM
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Another book that you might find interesting for your paper is "Laughin' Boy" by Bradley Denton (sometimes horror author - nominated for a Stoker for his book Blackburn). It is a black comedy written in 2000-2001 as a response to the Oklahoma City bombing and became unpublishable becuase of 9-11. It has just recently seen a non limited edition publication. I dont know if it will help any but if nothing else it would bring direct result of 9-11 on the publishing industry

Icarusflu
Alvin Fox   09-30-2008, 02:52 AM
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Ya know, it's been kinda hard for me to find new horror to read ever since Barnes & Noble removed their horror section and integrated it with either fiction or science fiction. Come to think of it, they seemed to do that around 9/11. Or they thought just plain ol' horror isn't viable.
  
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