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Maggers   05-09-2008, 12:57 AM
jimbow8 Wrote:...So, is Richard Alpert Locke's father? I certainly got that impression.
I didn't get that impression at all. We know the Man from Tallahassee, the man we know as Locke's father, was a match for Locke's kidney. I think he was Locke's father in reality.

I got the impression that Richard Alpert was doing with baby Locke what Richard probably has been doing throughout the ages, namely, looking out for the Island. Richard works in mysterious ways, and we don't know what those ways are yet, nor do we know why.

Quote:Was Richard testing young Locke to see if Locke was "unstuck in time" at that particular moment?
Well, that didn't come to me, either. I need to see it again. Much of the episode is a complete mystery to me at this moment.


Quote:Christian said that Aaron "is where he's supposed to be." Is Aaron supposed to be raised by Sawyer? :confused:
I took that to mean that Aaron is now poised to leave the Island, and for whatever reasons, the Island wants Aaron gone.

Quote:"Move the island" - on first reaction = LAME! I hope I'm wrong.
I thought it was brilliant. Can't wait to see how they do it.

More later for me, too.

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Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
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jimbow8   05-09-2008, 01:02 AM
Maggers Wrote:I didn't get that impression at all. We know the Man from Tallahassee, the man we know as Locke's father, was a match for Locke's kidney. I think he was Locke's father in reality.

Umm ... oh yeah!! Duh!!!! Cooper! I don't know why I forgot that.:mad2:

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Maggers   05-09-2008, 01:05 AM
jimbow8 Wrote:Umm ... oh yeah!! Duh!!!! Cooper! I don't know why I forgot that.:mad2:

Holy cow, you forgot that whole long build up? Forgot that he threw Locke out the window? Stole his kidney? Forget that Locke had Sawyer kill him? :crazy: That's a lot to forget. Too funny.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

jimbow8   05-09-2008, 01:08 AM
Maggers Wrote:Well, that didn't come to me, either. I need to see it again. Much of the episode is a complete mystery to me at this moment.

Richard Alpert to young Locke: "Which of these things belong to you already?"

I'm curious, was that knife one that we've seen before? (Maybe the one Keamy used to kill Ray?) Or was John's "failure" simply due to him being a small boy fascinated with weapons, causing him to inadvertantly fail the test?

Is that the comic book that Walt was reading? (A: No, it is not. Damn!) Have we seen the "Book of Laws" before?
This post was last modified: 05-09-2008, 01:41 AM by jimbow8.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
jimbow8   05-09-2008, 01:16 AM
Maggers Wrote:Holy cow, you forgot that whole long build up? Forgot that he threw Locke out the window? Stole his kidney? Forget that Locke had Sawyer kill him? :crazy: That's a lot to forget. Too funny.

Well it wasn't anywhere near that elaborate or dramatic. I simply heard Emily's mom say that the "boyfriend" was twice Emily's age and new that Richard was in the episode (and we saw him very soon after) and it fixated in my mind.

Good to see Abbadon again. Big Grin

Oh and when Ben calls Locke on manipulating Hugo into staying with them. Cool.

OK, I'm just thinking how WEIRD the time warp is. Ray's body washed ashore. Then we see him killed, then the helicopter takes off, then the helicopter passes overhead. Unless we aren't being shown Jack's beach group in real time sequence...... Either way Ray's body seems to have traveled MUCH faster than the helicopter.
This post was last modified: 05-09-2008, 01:18 AM by jimbow8.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Maggers   05-09-2008, 01:21 AM
jimbow8 Wrote:OK, I'm just thinking how WEIRD the time warp is. Ray's body washed ashore. Then we see him killed, then the helicopter takes off, then the helicopter passes overhead. Unless we aren't being shown Jack's beach group in real time sequence...... Either way Ray's body seems to have traveled MUCH faster than the helicopter.

Well, as little Dan Faraday keeps saying, "when" is relative. Anything having to do with time on that Island is slippery, like Teflon. Since I can't wrap my brain around time on that Island in a concrete way, the way I like to understand science, I just go with the flow and see where it takes me.

Gives a whole new meaning to the old phrase "Island time."

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

jimbow8   05-09-2008, 01:24 AM
Maggers Wrote:Well, as little Dan Faraday keeps saying, "when" is relative. Anything having to do with time on that Island is slippery, like Teflon. Since I can't wrap my brain around time on that Island in a concrete way, the way I like to understand science, I just go with the flow and see where it takes me.

Gives a whole new meaning to the old phrase "Island time."

Which leads me to wonder if maybe the plan is to "move the island" in TIME and not in space as one would assume .... Idea That would NOT be lame.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Marc   05-09-2008, 12:02 PM
The thing that really confused me was when Locke entered the cabin and not only saw Jack and Claire's father but Claire herself! She looked a bit crazy too. So are we to assume she is now dead and Locke is seeing her like the other "ghosts" or is she alive and doing as they ask?

And was anyone else surprised when they showed the doctor alive and well on the boat? So the boat wasn't lying a few weeks ago when they said on the radio the doctor was fine.
cobalt   05-09-2008, 03:16 PM
One thing that struck me as creepy as Locke talked with Christian in the cabin. When you first see Christian in the corner, he looked almost skeletal.... to me at least. He "fleshed out" as time went on.
Moving the island? In time and space or just time. Time would make more sense to me. The island seems to move people and objects with ease, at least it seems so to me.

EWMAN
Maggers   05-09-2008, 07:52 PM
Marc B. Wrote:The thing that really confused me was when Locke entered the cabin and not only saw Jack and Claire's father but Claire herself! She looked a bit crazy too. So are we to assume she is now dead and Locke is seeing her like the other "ghosts" or is she alive and doing as they ask?
I wasn't surprised to see Claire there, she did walk into the jungle with the being who looks like her father. I still won't say it's actually her father.

She certainly was acting in a very un-Claire-like fashion, and looked a little whacked. What happened to her on that jungle walk with her "dad?" I'd like to see that.

Quote:And was anyone else surprised when they showed the doctor alive and well on the boat? So the boat wasn't lying a few weeks ago when they said on the radio the doctor was fine.
I wasn't surprised to see the doctor alive nor was I surprised to see him die as he did. Time is the key to what is whacky and uncontrollable about that Island, but if Locke can "move" the Island, it surely will be moved in time. How the hell they will do that remains to be seen. But how the hell have they been able to do anything they've done thus far on that Island?

I've just about given up trying to guess anything. As I think CC said, they writers are dealing from a stacked deck. Yes, I know that all writers have it over the audience, but these writers pull stuff out of their bag of tricks that we could never even conceive. Every time you think you're near to a good guess at what is happening, the writers throw something bizarre into the pot, something you could never know as a humble member of the audience.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

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