jimbow8 Wrote:Back to the original premise. You contend that M Moore is "lying" because he manipulates the truth by using the arguments that support his case and not mentioning others which would hinder it.
This is false. Its not that he doesn't mention other's quotes, its that he cuts off quotes. Like what he did to Condi. There are other examples of that if you would like to see them.
jimbow8 Wrote:I still fail to understand how Bush (again, the admin) is any different. While they may have used carefully chosen words so as to avoid spoken lies (I am still searching for actual evidence, but I an CERTAIN it is out there), but they definitely manipulated facts in order to support their claims and advance their goals and agenda. I fail to see the difference.
I will Mike Moore this for you and you tell me if there is a difference:
Jimbow8 claims that Bush is a liar but yet has no facts to back up his stance. Earlier today he was quoted as saying, "I am still searching for actual evidence."
On a side note, Jimbow8 continues his anti-Mike Moore campaign by saying that he "fail(s) to see the difference" between the two.
What I had just done implies that you think Bush is a liar but you sound stupid because you don't have anything backing up your stance. The second one is me putting words in your mouth by chopping the meaning of your post, up. Now, I don't think that you are stupid because anyone that is deeply pationate about politics, and is willing to spend time to back up themselves, can't be to a degree. I have seen people that insist that Bush planed the 911 attacks. Stupid is about the only thing that comes into my head when thinking of these guys.
jimbow8 Wrote:By no means am I saying that Moore is not a liar, only that Bush (admin) is a liar. That makes both sides wrong. I do, however, believe that parts of Moore's movie and the "facts" presented in it (I will be seeing it tonight) are valid and should be known by the general population. The more information one knows, the better. It is up to the individual to sort through it and verify facts. It is not anyone else's responsibility to censor the information before one can do this.
His facts are very twisted and if you took your time, there are already sites put up telling these lies for F911. I could post some if you would like, but thats up to you guys (don't want to give up all my sources in one go).
jimbow8 Wrote:BTW, Welcome to the board and the perpetual argument! I think you will soon learn that many on this board are not so much against Bush or Kerry or any party whatsoever as they are against the ever-growing, rights-denying power of the federal government as a whole. Just to warn you.
And I'm the complete opposite. I don't see any of these "right-denying" things. Sensorship seems to be the major cry by the public these days but I can say what I want. Kerry can say what he wants. Call me blind, but I don't seem to see any of it. But thanks for the welcome. Everyone here seems real nice. No one has attacked me for thinking differently and I recognize and appreciate it.
Rob T.