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Ken Valentine   07-10-2006, 08:06 PM
#21
jimbow8 Wrote:The first Jack novel (The Tomb/Rakoshi) contains the supernatural, and the last Jack novel (Nightworld) contains the supernatural. I think it only natural that those between also contain the supernatural.

The only exception being the second RJ novel . . . LEGACIES.

However, I kind of understand Excelsior's quibble. I too am not a fan of supernatural or horror stories. But I'm a fan of FPW simply because he writes DAMN . . . GOOD . . . STORIES! He's a great story-teller!

(To Excelsior.)

Paul wrote The Adversary Cycle; six novels which had a beginning and an end. The first novel RJ appeared in (THE TOMB) was an extermely popular book. He had been pestered for years to write more JR books. It seems that the natural outgrowth of this was to write a parallel series connecting RJ to the rest of the AC series. By the time this will be finished there will be nearly twenty novels dealing with RJ and/or The Otherness. From the perspective of his fan-base this is a wise decision. After this series is finished -- and if he doesn't get burned out on writing about Jack -- more non-supernatural RJ novels will be written.

Having read only The Tomb, Legacies, Conspiracies and The Haunted Air, you are definitely missing out on a lot of good stories.

Ken V.
jimbow8   07-10-2006, 09:00 PM
#22
Ken Valentine Wrote:The only exception being the second RJ novel . . . LEGACIES.

However, I kind of understand Excelsior's quibble. I too am not a fan of supernatural or horror stories. But I'm a fan of FPW simply because he writes DAMN . . . GOOD . . . STORIES! He's a great story-teller!

Ken V.
I totally understand. I admit that I was a little disappointed that The Keep wasn't the vampire novel that it somewhat represented itself to be - I am a huge fan of vampire lore. I had seen the movie (and liked it), but realized that the book (as usual) was much more involved and different. Countless books and years later, here I am.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Ken Valentine   07-10-2006, 09:57 PM
#23
jimbow8 Wrote:I totally understand. I admit that I was a little disappointed that The Keep wasn't the vampire novel that it somewhat represented itself to be - I am a huge fan of vampire lore. I had seen the movie (and liked it), but realized that the book (as usual) was much more involved and different. Countless books and years later, here I am.

I understand Jim.

I'm NOT a fan of vampire stories. I've read Stoker's Dracula simply because it's considered a classic. I read MIDNIGHT MASS solely because it's an FPW story, and as I said, he's a great story teller. If it had an author other than FPW, I would not have bothered with it.

It was a DAMN . . . GOOD . . . STORY. Even if it was about vampires. Big Grin

Ken V.
KRW   07-10-2006, 10:03 PM
#24
jimbow8 Wrote:I totally understand. I admit that I was a little disappointed that The Keep wasn't the vampire novel that it somewhat represented itself to be - I am a huge fan of vampire lore. I had seen the movie (and liked it), but realized that the book (as usual) was much more involved and different. Countless books and years later, here I am.


Yeah, years later and nearly 4,000 posts! Jim, you're incorrigible!


Ken - Look who's talking..............
neotank   07-10-2006, 11:01 PM
#25
Well, I LOVE horror, and I must say FPW is a heck of a storyteller.

Obviously he can't please everybody, but who really can?
BirdyVal   07-11-2006, 01:27 PM
#26
I have to say that one of the reasons I LOVE the R.J series is the mix between the supernatural, and Jack's "natural" "fix-it" jobs. I think FPW does an amazing job mixing them. I just finished reading the Adversary Cycle, at this time "Night World" is my favorite because of the way FPW brought so many of the characters from previous stories into the plot, and his "mixing" is A++!
Tony H   07-11-2006, 04:13 PM
#27
I personally find Excelsior’s post ridiculous. Fine that they choose to give up on RJ but to use such a lame excuse as "I don't like supernatural and the otherness" when The Tomb was both mystical and supernatural. How can the book that got you reading the character be filled with all this mysticism and supernatural aspects and only down the line do you not like the direction the books have taken?
Jack was delivered to us amid ancient Bengali demons, a necklace that prevents its wearer from harm/aging and a curse that spanned many generations.
If you don't like the Supernatural then why did you finish The Tomb and pick up other books featuring Jack.
I am glad you're an FPW fan; I just think you're muckraking at this point and the basis of your decision is weak. But as others said, there are many non-otherness books out there by Paul that you may enjoy.

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Biggles   07-11-2006, 06:09 PM
#28
Excelsior Wrote:They're two great tastes that don't taste great together, sort of like the anti-Reeses's-Peanut-Butter-Cup.

Hey, I'm down wit dat. I happen to like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups (especially the ice cream! Yum!). When it comes to the RJ short stories, Paul lays off the supernatural elements, and those are great. At the same time, the first RJ story (The Tomb) was filled with supernatural elements. It was great too. Hell, all of the libertarian fiction, sci-fi, medical thrillers, etc. is great too. You've got plenty to choose from if you want to put aside Jack for a while.

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Biggles   07-11-2006, 06:11 PM
#29
AsMoral Wrote:
I personally find Excelsior’s post ridiculous. Fine that they choose to give up on RJ but to use such a lame excuse as "I don't like supernatural and the otherness" when The Tomb was both mystical and supernatural. How can the book that got you reading the character be filled with all this mysticism and supernatural aspects and only down the line do you not like the direction the books have taken?

Jack was delivered to us amid ancient Bengali demons, a necklace that prevents its wearer from harm/aging and a curse that spanned many generations.

If you don't like the Supernatural then why did you finish The Tomb and pick up other books featuring Jack.

I am glad you're an FPW fan; I just think you're muckraking at this point and the basis of your decision is weak. But as others said, there are many non-otherness books out there by Paul that you may enjoy.

Now Tony, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I don't think his post was at all disrespectful, and in turn is worthy of our respect. Smile

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Biggles   07-11-2006, 06:13 PM
#30
Ken Valentine Wrote:I understand Jim.

I'm NOT a fan of vampire stories. I've read Stoker's Dracula simply because it's considered a classic. I read MIDNIGHT MASS solely because it's an FPW story, and as I said, he's a great story teller. If it had an author other than FPW, I would not have bothered with it.

It was a DAMN . . . GOOD . . . STORY. Even if it was about vampires. Big Grin

Ken V.

I love vampires! Maybe that's why I became a lawyer. :confused:

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