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Tempest   12-09-2005, 12:03 AM
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Being from SC, I've heard both sides of the debate endlessly. To be honest, both sides have valid points. There was a lot that was good in the Confederacy, and a lot that was bad. I don't have a problem at all with those who fly the flag to honor the good things, but I do have a problem with those who use it to fan their racism, classism, etc. I do agree that its annoying for people to move in from the outside and immediately start complaining about something they don't know about.

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
t4terrific   12-09-2005, 12:04 AM
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jaybird Wrote:Good point about Tempelton. I chose this avatar because I was born in the south, raised in the south, I have 8 generations from the south, and I had at least 13 ancestors that fought for the C.S.A.. Im about as southern as they come. I am a "Redneck" but Im NOT a hillbilly. There is a big difference.

I drew many a Rebel Flag as a kid. Many Americans now call it a racist symbol. I call it the logo of a valiant attempt at liberty. It failed though, and now the victor gets to write the past.
"Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past." -George Orwell (1984)
fpw   12-09-2005, 01:10 AM
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peachynat Wrote:Hey, don't apologize... I feel the same way

You two wanna get a room?

FPW
FAQ
"It means 'Ask the next question.' Ask the next question, and the one that follows that, and the one that follows that. It's the symbol of everything humanity has ever created." Theodore Sturgeon.
Ken Valentine   12-09-2005, 06:56 AM
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jaybird Wrote:Yes. I am proud of my heritage. Its getting harder to find any real southerners any more. I think there are more "Yankees" here in georgia than north of the Mason/Dixon line. I wouldnt mind it so much but, they move down here and then say "I think your State flag is racist" so our whimpy, candyassed, no back boned Gov. folds like a wet tent and changes the flag. I wouldnt come to your house and tell you that I dont like the decor and I want it changed. Thats just rude and disrespectful. ...... Okay. sorry about that. I tend to get carried away with subject.

Near as I can tell, the word Yankee comes from the Dutch word Janken . . . which means "to whine." Big Grin

Ken V.
t4terrific   12-09-2005, 10:02 AM
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Ken Valentine Wrote:Near as I can tell, the word Yankee comes from the Dutch word Janken . . . which means "to whine." Big Grin

Ken V.

I mentioned it before but where I come from, the word yankee, is always used as an insult.
Ken Valentine   12-09-2005, 10:28 AM
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t4terrific Wrote:I mentioned it before but where I come from, the word yankee, is always used as an insult.

I think Lisa would agree. Big Grin

Ken V.
Keith the Elder   12-09-2005, 10:52 AM
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Tempest Wrote:Being from SC, I've heard both sides of the debate endlessly. To be honest, both sides have valid points. There was a lot that was good in the Confederacy, and a lot that was bad. I don't have a problem at all with those who fly the flag to honor the good things, but I do have a problem with those who use it to fan their racism, classism, etc. I do agree that its annoying for people to move in from the outside and immediately start complaining about something they don't know about.

So it's ok to fly the Swastika to honor Hitler's stance against smoking because he was one of the first to postulate it's link to lung cancer and heart disease. Am I understanding you correctly?

"Think for yourself and question authority" Leary

By the way, How are things in your town?
t4terrific   12-09-2005, 11:06 AM
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Keith the Elder Wrote:So it's ok to fly the Swastika to honor Hitler's stance against smoking because he was one of the first to postulate it's link to lung cancer and heart disease. Am I understanding you correctly?

Is it okay to wave an American flag because Americans were slave owners and slave traders for years. How many Japanes civilians were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

The South has a very proud and honorable tradition, much greater than that of the slave owners they opposed, from The North, in the Civil War.
Keith the Elder   12-09-2005, 11:10 AM
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t4terrific Wrote:Is it okay to wave an American flag because Americans were slave owners and slave traders for years. How many Japanes civilians were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

The South has a very proud and honorable tradition, much greater than that of the slave owners they opposed, from The North, in the Civil War.


So I made my point then!

"Think for yourself and question authority" Leary

By the way, How are things in your town?
fpw   12-09-2005, 01:01 PM
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Amazing...this started off as "Midnight Mass??"

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