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jimbow8   12-10-2004, 01:13 PM
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Blake Wrote:And here's one more positive: If it hadn't been for that movie, I might not have found FPW's work. [T]he fact remains that I owe some thanks to the film.

Blake
Ditto to that. I saw the movie and saw the credit to Paul. I searched out the book and soon learned that it was part of a series. I have been a fan ever since.

Blake Wrote:I would definitely say that anyone who's a fan of the book -- or even just horror films in general -- should see the film if they haven't already and form their own opinion on it. Don't let any of us naysayers sway you! You might find some merit in it.

Personally, I'm only looking forward to seeing it again with FPW's commentary, but that's me. Smile

Blake
Ditto on this one, too. I, personally, like the movie. Is it among the greatest movies ever? No, but by definition, few are. I am a fan of Michael Mann also. I happen to get a kick out of horror movies. Even if they are bad, I try to like them and draw something good from them, if only to sustain the genre so that others will continue to make horror movies (they have been a dying breed - at least the good ones). Besides, that stellar cast makes it enjoyable for me to watch regardless.

As Blake says, see it for yourself and form your own opinion.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Maggers   12-11-2004, 03:49 PM
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Maggers Wrote:Call me crazy, but after viewing the trailer, I rented "The Keep" last night. I saw the movie long ago and did not hate it.

I've watched the first 20 minutes, and so far, I find the score to be immensely annoying, more so than any score I've heard in a long time.

I'll post more after I've seen the whole movie.

****SPOILER ALERT FOR THE MOVIE, "THE KEEP"*****




OK, I just finished watching "The Keep." I must have been mighty stoned when I saw it the first time back in '83, because I thought it was just fine. If you're in an altered stated, I can see where the movie wouldn't grate on you so much.

The excessive use of slow motion is laughable. The slo-mo is used for no discernable reason except, perhaps, to clue us in to the fact that this is a fable by creating an artificial air of unreality.

It bears virutally no relation to the book, except for the use of the main characters and their names. But who those characters are, how they relate to one another, and their significance to the story, all this is completely absent. You're left wondering how it all hangs together. The answer...it doesn't. We don't know why anyone is doing anything in the movie.

It seems a very dated film, and I am not referring to the fact that it is a period piece which takes place 60 years ago. The manner in which it was shot, the special effects, the lighting, all seemed very .... '70's.

As a stand alone movie, not comparing it to its source, it is simply a horror film that does not work.

As an adaptation of FPW's brilliant book, it fails miserably. The movie has virtually none of the spirit of the book. It's a film about something else entirely.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

sublime1983   12-12-2004, 11:35 PM
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jamedog Wrote:Seeing how they're(Hollywood) remaking every other horror movie, wht not remake the keep? The book was excellent and could be one cool and atmospheric movie.

Or better yet, continue with the trend and make The Keep vs The Talented Mr. Ripley and set it in Alaska.

There was once a man who was all obsessed with the strangest things. Like Nestle Quik, original cdr's and Afro-sheen. He built himself his dome, never left his home, decided life is much better when you're on your own. You might not want my opinion, but he coulda been on to something good.

Josh
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