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Marc   01-04-2009, 03:15 PM
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With the new season of LOST starting in just a few weeks I went back and re-watched season 4. Last night I was discussing it with a friend and we came up with a theory. While not new in all the discussions of LOST on the web it was new to us.

Is it possible that the LOST island is Atlantis?

I was going to explain why this makes sense, but then I stumbled on a well written explanation that does it better than I could. Taken from LOST-Theories.com:

I know there were some theories about the Lost island being the Atlantis (e.g “The Ultimate Theory: The Philosophers Mind” by Edgar_Hallowax), i’m pretty sure that the island is Atlantis, only after the words of Locke about “moving the island” at the end of S04x11.


My arguments are: (some may be reiterated)


All the historical sources about the Atlantis (which is described as an island or a group of islands) refers to an abrupt disappearance of the whole continent. Many writings, including Plato’s “Dialogues” tells us that in a single day and night, with violent earthquakes and floods the island of Atlantis disappeared in the depths of the sea. Now we all know the island can move in time and space. In the Season 4 finale we will probably see how Locke and Ben will “move the island”. Look out for an earthquake and maybe flood like event during the season finale.


The location of the Lost island also fits the most probable location of Atlantis; in the Pacific Ocean, south of Indonesia. (Atlantis Checklist)


The capitol of Atlantis was described as a city surrounded by three concentric moats with carved tunnels into the rings and an outer Wall… (The UnMuseum - The Lost Continent of Atlantis[/url]). Now, look at the Dharma logo!.. (
[url=http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/DHARMA_logos]Dharma Logos - Lospedia). The main logo and all the other station logos only have the 3 concentric interrupted rings and an outer solid line in common (which may resemble the inner moats interrupted with tunnels and bridges and the outer wall). The similarity to the presumed configuration of the lost city of Atlantis is remarkable.


Another central, unique feature of Atlantis were its seas, rendered “innavigable” by cataclysm as reported by Plato and other ancient authorities. These writings are interpreted as the seas were innavigable because they were covered thick with giant banks of floating, fiery pumice-stone from volcanic eruptions. Seas around our Lost island is also innavigable, but due to magnetic anomalies.


We all know that there is a four-toe ancient statue on the island. It is said that Apollon and Athena, the Greek Gods, are usually depicted with four toes on each foot. So this statue with his sandal is a definite proof for the existence of an ancient civilization on the island.


Some people on the island call themselves as “natives”, they are led by Richard Apert who dont seem to age. Remember “Fountain of Youth”, one of the most famous stories about the legend of Atlantis.


We also know that there is a “temple” on the island which we didn’t see yet. How about a Temple of Poseidon, another Atlantean landmark?… Remember the hyrogliphes in the hatch as well. For many historians Atlantean civilization was the ancestor of ancient Egypt.


If the island sink and rise for various reasons (volcanic activity or deliberate “movement”Wink this explains why Black Rock is in the middle of the island.


According to some investigators Atlantis was a place of advanced civilization. On the island we witnessed many advanced technology stations supposed to be operated by Dharma Initiative. We are informed that the roots of Dharma goes to Alvar Hanso but we do not clearly know if the stations are build by Dharma or they are just taken over the stations or some technologies from the “natives”. Moreover we still do not know what “Black Smoke” is, how they “time travel” or move the island etc. All of these “technologies” can be the heritage of an ancient civilization whose descendants still living on the island. Alvar Hanso may be a man who once discovered the island by accident and revealed the features it has and began to exploit it in some way or other. Native people of the island may have tried to expel them and succeed with the help of Benjamin Linus, but they have returned now. In this point both Benjamin Linus and John Locke seems to be special people for the native folk (hence Atlanteans), their birth, their arrival in the island and their relationship with the natives (and Jacob) are another story but I think the advanced technology of the Atlanteans has something to do with Ben and John’s births (John was a “special project”Wink


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So there you have it. Some very interesting reasons why the island could in fact be Atlantis.
This post was last modified: 01-04-2009, 03:37 PM by Marc.
cobalt   01-04-2009, 03:21 PM
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WOW, I like that theory. Good evidence to support it as well.

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Sigokat   01-04-2009, 03:37 PM
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god I hope not.

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Legion   01-07-2009, 10:22 PM
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sigokat Wrote:god I hope not.

I agree, but sadly it makes too much sense. Still, with something so obvious I doubt that J.J. Abrams would make it something so easy. Also remember the whole "ghost" aspect. Unless the Atlanteans had come up with some way to localize and/or attract the spirits of the dead, I doubt it.

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Maggers   01-09-2009, 09:29 PM
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I like it, Marc, and it doesn't upset me at all. However, as with all the theories I've thought about throughout the years of LOST, I will continue to be skeptical and expect the unexpected. I understand there is a big Egyptian connection that will be discovered this season. I also understand the Island has been moved in time as well as space.

We shall see. I've rewatched Season 4 (for the 3rd or 4th, time I've forgotten) and watched all the extras in the disc set. Nothing extraordinary there. But still cannot wait.

Will moving the Island in time mean that all will be well at the end? Everyone still alive since they can go to the Island in a time before they died? I suspect we shall see a few miraculous resurrections.

But then again, it's LOST, so who really knows.

Oh, and I think red headed Charlotte might be Ben's daughter via his old childhood girl friend. But wouldn't you think the omniscient Ben would know that and not have attempted to kill her, his own flesh and blood. So right there, I'm shooting down my own theory....or maybe not. Confusedquigglemouth:


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Marc   01-09-2009, 09:50 PM
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Maggers Wrote:Oh, and I think red headed Charlotte might be Ben's daughter via his old childhood girl friend.

For some reason I think Charlotte is his childhood girlfriend. Granted their ages don't match, nor do I remember his his friends names... but why not?

(Probably not though.)
Sigokat   01-09-2009, 11:57 PM
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Marc,

Charlotte being Annie has been debated to death on the Lostpedia forums...and it has been shot down over and over. Ben knew way to much about Charlotte and seeing as how Ben's information is prety accurate, he probably would have known if she was Annie.

Also, as far as we know the Island hasn't been moved since Ben's arrival and the timeline matches up to the current one. So there could be no way that Ben aged on the island while Annie didn't off the island. I just don't see it. More than likely if she is some how connected with Ben she is his daughter. However, most people believe that Ben's obsession with the fertility issues on the Island was brought about because he possibly could have gotten Annie pregnant and she ended up dying, thus meaning that both Annie and the child would have died.

However, we'll just have to wait and see I guess.
This post was last modified: 01-10-2009, 06:55 AM by Sigokat.

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"We are alone, absolutely alone on this chance planet: and, amid all the forms of life that surround us, not one, excepting the dog, has made an alliance with us." - Maurice Maeterlinck
Maggers   01-12-2009, 03:32 PM
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Marc Wrote:For some reason I think Charlotte is his childhood girlfriend. Granted their ages don't match, nor do I remember his his friends names... but why not?

(Probably not though.)

Anything is possible, but if you go back to the episode in Season 4 entitled "The Other Woman," Ben invites Juliet over for what turns out to be a private dinner. When he opens the door to his place and welcomes her in, there is a large portrait on the wall behind him. It's of a woman who resembles Juliet (remember that Juliet has heard a number of references about her resemblance to an as yet unnamed woman). The woman has long honey blond hair and doesn't really look like Charlotte. I theorized last year that the portrait was that of Ben's childhood girlfriend as a young woman, and I think that is the woman whom Juliet is supposed to look like...the only woman Ben ever really loved (or so we think, maybe, possibly, could be, who knows...). So I do not think Charlotte is Annie.

Given Ben's omniscience (spelling?), I cannot believe that he wouldn't know all about Charlotte's birth, wherever it was, and especially if she was his daughter. But hey, anything is possible on this show.
This post was last modified: 01-12-2009, 03:35 PM by Maggers.

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Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
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Jamo   01-13-2009, 05:24 PM
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Next wednesday lost starts in the US?
One flashback episode and then a double episode? Is that correct?
I am really excicted Smile

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Alvin Fox   01-13-2009, 07:09 PM
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Jamo Wrote:Next wednesday lost starts in the US?
One flashback episode and then a double episode? Is that correct?
I am really excicted Smile

Yeah, a season 1-4 summary episode and two new episodes. Tomorrow night is the enhanced version of of the last two episodes/ three hours of season 4.
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