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Maggers   10-04-2005, 10:40 PM
#21
Biggles Wrote:Hmmm! Nicely done! I like your explanation best of all. Actually, the creatures coming over from the Otherness suggested to me the existence of a parallel universe as well. I've come to believe in the existence of infinite parallel universes, and the existence of "past", "present" and "future" simultaneously as well. Some of Dean Koontz' works got me started on that (quantum mechanics are involved, I believe).

I seldom agree with you 100%, Biggles, but I do here. I believe there could be multiple alternate universes, and I absolutely believe that past, present and future occur simultaneously. I love the movie "What the (blank) Do We Know?" because it deals very realistically and relatively simply with just these complex ideas.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

Maggers   10-04-2005, 10:42 PM
#22
KRW Wrote:Well, if your just asking for how we rationalized it when we read Nightworld, here's mine. (remember you asked for it) .....
KRW

Beautifully put, Ken. Right on the money and quite brilliant, I think. Makes perfect sense to me.

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

jimbow8   10-05-2005, 09:19 AM
#23
Biggles Wrote:Hmmm! Nicely done! I like your explanation best of all. Actually, the creatures coming over from the Otherness suggested to me the existence of a parallel universe as well. I've come to believe in the existence of infinite parallel universes, and the existence of "past", "present" and "future" simultaneously as well. Some of Dean Koontz' works got me started on that (quantum mechanics are involved, I believe).
We like to call it the multiverse.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. ... The piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
~ Howard Phillips Lovecraft
Maggers   10-05-2005, 10:09 AM
#24
jimbow8 Wrote:We like to call it the multiverse.


Gee, and I thought that was just a long poem. Big Grin

Reading is freedom.
The mind soars, no earthly cares,
no limitations.
A Maggers Haiku, 2005


Years ago my mother used to say to me... "In this world, Elwood, you can be oh so smart or oh so pleasant."
Well, for years I was smart.
I recommend pleasant.
You may quote me.

Elwood P. Dowd

t4terrific   10-05-2005, 10:28 AM
#25
Maggers Wrote:I seldom agree with you 100%, Biggles, but I do here. I believe there could be multiple alternate universes, and I absolutely believe that past, present and future occur simultaneously. I love the movie "What the (blank) Do We Know?" because it deals very realistically and relatively simply with just these complex ideas.

I guess everybody "believes" in something. Big Grin
The Mad American   10-05-2005, 11:37 AM
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Just one thing here that was mentioned in the original post, that we are the only intelligent beings in the universe.

I think that is covered by the mention of the ongoing war between the Otherness and the apathetic counterpart who is fighting it.

I really like the seed thats planted (for lack of a better term) when you get the explanation from Glaeken I believe (man its been awhile, may have to go back and reread these books). That the Otherness and its counterpart view the battle for the Earth as small and insignificant and that the counterpart has moved on to bigger more important battles with the Otherness in other places and therefore can't really be bothered to help out here with the exception of Glaeken and the rest of the band of Heroes in the Adversary books.

What are these bigger more important battles? I love stuff like that from reading a book, making my imagination get going and thinking about stuff after reading and trying to imagine the big picture...in mine, the bigger more important battles are happening on two worlds...one good world named Bosox and the other Evil world named Spankeeworld....hehe...

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Scott Miller   10-05-2005, 12:03 PM
#27
The Mad American Wrote:What are these bigger more important battles? I love stuff like that from reading a book, making my imagination get going and thinking about stuff after reading and trying to imagine the big picture...in mine, the bigger more important battles are happening on two worlds...one good world named Bosox and the other Evil world named Spankeeworld....hehe...

"You mean like one atom in my fingernail could be a giant in another universe?"

Scott

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Biggles   10-05-2005, 12:38 PM
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Maggers Wrote:I seldom agree with you 100%, Biggles, but I do here. I believe there could be multiple alternate universes, and I absolutely believe that past, present and future occur simultaneously. I love the movie "What the (blank) Do We Know?" because it deals very realistically and relatively simply with just these complex ideas.

There is definitely an alternate universe where the Steelers win the Super Bowl every year, where male pattern baldness has been stamped out, where mosquitoes don't exist, where the speed limit is triple digits and slower traffic keeps to the right, and where all dogs are like Bryan on Family Guy (why shouldn't you be able to go to a sports bar and toss back a few pints of Rolling Rock with your best friend?). Sad

One of these days, I'll find that alternate universe, and I'm outta here! Do you suppose that's what really happened in those supposed cases of "spontaneous human combustion"? Now that would be an interesting story line!

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Ossicle   10-05-2005, 12:55 PM
#29
KRW Wrote:Well, if your just asking for how we rationalized it when we read Nightworld, here's mine. (remember you asked for it Big Grin )

[snip]

KRW

Nice!! This reminds me to an extent of the one I thought of, too. This increases my pleasure -- minty fresh!
Ossicle   10-05-2005, 12:58 PM
#30
Pleiades Wrote:I recently read a SciFi book where some outside entity changed the flow of time on Earth. It was called Spin, by Robert Charles Wilson (must be something about "Wilson"). The author wanted to keep a firm foothold in physics and had to constantly invent work-arounds which distracted from the story and made it less fun. But if you want to think about General Relativity and distorting time as an explanation, remember that there are several passages in Nightworld where it is noted that the stars are different, and fewer.

ACK!! I forgot this. Cool. That is interesting.
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