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Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Tony H - 02-03-2010
fpw Wrote:Thanks. Good to know. I've heard that from others as well. I didn't think they'd turn down guaranteed sales.
Books-A-Million, who does a great job of carrying your books, told me that Secret Histories was not available via in-store delivery. They couldn't order your book for me. I had to order it from Amazon.
I thought it was a one-off issue, but they said the same thing about Secret Circles. I just ordered it through Amazon as I do most of the books I purchase anyway.
Why would a bookseller not be able to order a book to be delivered to their store? I don't get it.
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Yeratel - 02-04-2010
AsMoral Wrote:I thought it was a one-off issue, but they said the same thing about Secret Circles. I just ordered it through Amazon as I do most of the books I purchase anyway.
Why would a bookseller not be able to order a book to be delivered to their store? I don't get it.
Maybe, as a "Young Adult" title, the publisher just didn't order all that many copies printed, and had to ration them out until they see if it's selling enough copies to be worth doing another print run.
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Yeratel - 02-04-2010
As of Wednesday night, all of the Macmillan/Tor books are back in the Amazon.com store, including the Kindle editions of FPW's stuff.
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Steve_M - 02-04-2010
Yeratel Wrote:As of Wednesday night, all of the Macmillan/Tor books are back in the Amazon.com store, including the Kindle editions of FPW's stuff.I just checked, and this does not appear to be so, at least with respect to the Tor hardback edition of Secret Circles. Maybe you are seeing links on the Amazon website to third-party sellers?
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Anders Monsen - 02-04-2010
I went online to Amazon this evening and Secret Circles still is unavailable from the store there. Getting ticked off with Amazon, but will be patient.
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - fpw - 02-04-2010
Yeratel Wrote:Yep, glad I pre-ordered, and got it in my hands already. I see today all your books are still listed on Amazon, but only through third-party sellers, and not through Amazon.com directly. That means no Kindle versions, for right now, but the Kindle version of Ozymandius I already bought still shows up in my Archived Books.My non-MacMillan titles still have BUY buttons.
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Alvin Fox - 02-04-2010
I'm curious. Seeing as Amazon doesn't want to sell your MacMillan books, what if you put up a review or word from the author for each unavailable book and linked to several different sites where the book can be purchased?
MacMillan
Barnes & Noble
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Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - Yeratel - 02-04-2010
fpw Wrote:My non-MacMillan titles still have BUY buttons.
Is that what it is? Ah, yes, I see the stuff that's there in paperback and Kindle editions was from BookSurge Publishing. That explains it.
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - webby - 02-04-2010
Anders Monsen Wrote:I went online to Amazon this evening and Secret Circles still is unavailable from the store there. Getting ticked off with Amazon, but will be patient.
I'm more ticked off with McMillan.
As long as Amazon pays McMillan whatever they ask for wholesale, how exactly does McMillan have any right to tell Amazon what they can charge for retail? If Amazon wants to take a loss on every Kindle download, that's their concern. Once Amazon bought those books from McMillan, Amazon owns them. McMillan should have no more say about pricing at that point.
And now it looks like Rupert Murdoch (who owns HarperCollins) will be going after Amazon too...
:mad:
Amazon / SECRET CIRCLES - jerrund - 02-04-2010
webby Wrote:I'm more ticked off with McMillan.
As long as Amazon pays McMillan whatever they ask for wholesale, how exactly does McMillan have any right to tell Amazon what they can charge for retail? If Amazon wants to take a loss on every Kindle download, that's their concern. Once Amazon bought those books from McMillan, Amazon owns them. McMillan should have no more say about pricing at that point.
And now it looks like Rupert Murdoch (who owns HarperCollins) will be going after Amazon too...
:mad:
The problem is, Amazon went nuclear in their response. An in-kind response to a dispute over e-book prices is to not sell the e-books until the pricing stucture can be agreed to. To delist ALL of Macmillan/Tor books in all forms was Amazon trying to be a schoolyard bully, plain and simple.
Pricing is not the issue here. Charlie Stross has a great expalantion of what he sees as the issues here - http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2010/01/amazon-macmillan-an-outsiders.html
Also, John Scalzi's Blog http://whatever.scalzi.com/ is dripping with commentary