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Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - WPD - 10-11-2008

I was curious as to why the prerequisite for a shoten was changed...


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - fpw - 10-12-2008

WPD Wrote:I was curious as to why the prerequisite for a shoten was changed...

[SIZE="3"]Could you elaborate?[/SIZE]


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - WPD - 10-12-2008

Well, in Black Wind, a shoten had to be a child, the best shotens being mongrels. Using children for shoten was a large part of what made the Kakureta Kao so ruthless. I was wondering why in By the Sword, adults or virtually anybody could be a shoten.


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - Ken Valentine - 10-12-2008

WPD Wrote:Well, in Black Wind, a shoten had to be a child, the best shotens being mongrels. Using children for shoten was a large part of what made the Kakureta Kao so ruthless. I was wondering why in By the Sword, adults or virtually anybody could be a shoten.
If I remember correctly, in BLACKWIND, they hadn't found all the scrolls which told how to make the elixer which would enable them to make a Shoten of anyone -- so they used children. By the time BY THE SWORD takes place, the Kakureta Kao had finally rediscovered how to make the elixer, so using children wasn't necessary.

Ken V.


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - WPD - 10-12-2008

Ken Valentine Wrote:If I remember correctly, in BLACKWIND, they hadn't found all the scrolls which told how to make the elixer which would enable them to make a Shoten of anyone -- so they used children. By the time BY THE SWORD takes place, the Kakureta Kao had finally rediscovered how to make the elixer, so using children wasn't necessary.

Ken V.


Yes, I know, but I was curious as to why FPW decided to make that change.


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - WPD - 10-12-2008

Ken Valentine Wrote:If I remember correctly, in BLACKWIND, they hadn't found all the scrolls which told how to make the elixer which would enable them to make a Shoten of anyone -- so they used children. By the time BY THE SWORD takes place, the Kakureta Kao had finally rediscovered how to make the elixer, so using children wasn't necessary.

Ken V.

True in Black Wind, the scroll fragmets that Hiroki found were incomplete, but what they did find always mentioned children. Also, there was a scene in BW where the Kakureta Kao used a small child in a wicker basket against Kubla Khan. This predated the scrolls being hidden.


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - Ken Valentine - 10-12-2008

WPD Wrote:True in Black Wind, the scroll fragmets that Hiroki found were incomplete, but what they did find always mentioned children. Also, there was a scene in BW where the Kakureta Kao used a small child in a wicker basket against Kubla Khan. This predated the scrolls being hidden.
It's been a while since I have read BLACKWIND, so I could be mistaken. I have the impression that the Mongol invasion was stopped by an actual storm in the Inland Sea, (this was the second invasion attempt, which encountered a typhoon and spawned the belief in a Kamikaze, or Divine Wind) and that the earliest use of the Kakureta Kao-generated Blackwind was in a land battle during the Toyotomi (or was it Nobunaga) "unification" of Japan.

Ken V.


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - fpw - 10-12-2008

[SIZE="3"]Ah, yes. Back in the 80s I was uncomfortable with what was necessary to turn a child into a shoten, and on revisiting the rituals realized I was even more so now. A change in personal aesthetics went a long way toward that change. [/SIZE]


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - WPD - 10-12-2008

fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]Ah, yes. Back in the 80s I was uncomfortable with what was necessary to turn a child into a shoten, and on revisiting the rituals realized I was even more so now. A change in personal aesthetics went a long way toward that change. [/SIZE]


Ahh, a moment of weakness caused by a warm heart. You should never let that interfere with your work when dealing with the abyss Smile


Question for FPW (By the Sword spoiler) - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 10-12-2008

WPD Wrote:Ahh, a moment of weakness caused by a warm heart. You should never let that interfere with your work when dealing with the abyss Smile


Naow here's ol' WPD tellin' Paulie haow t' wroite his books!

Will he be tellin' the Pope haow t' say Mass next?Big Grin:pBig Grin