Kenji Wrote:I saw JFK in theater. Yes, it was very long film. If I express it in one word, it's "tedious". I don't want to see it again. Nevertheless, they made special edition! Plus 17 minutes! Why?! :confused:

Kevin Costner, Tommy Lee Jones, Kevin Bacon, Gary Oldman, Sissy Spacek, Jack Lemmon, Joe Pesci...Look at them! What a great actors& actress! One problem was Oliver Stone forced his opinions to audiences.

fpw Wrote:Almost 3.5 hours. Yow. There aren't many folks who like a conspiracy theory more than I (e.g., Conpiracies), but this was looooong. Compelling, though, even if the film places the entire blame on the wrong shoulders: the military-industrial complex.

According to Stone, the MIC wanted Kennedy dead because he was going to pull every American soldier and advisor out of Nam, thus depriving the MIC of all those contracts. This is a fiction concocted by the post-assassination canonizers of JFK who want to hide the fact that he was a devout anticommunist.

Bear with me while I copy here a paragraph that Arthur M. Schlesinger deleted from his coverage of Kennedy's 9/10/63 news conference in his book, A Thousand Days:

"We want the war to be won, the communists contained, and the Americans to go home. That is our policy. I am sure it is the policy of Vietnam. But we are not there to see a war lost, and we will follow the policy which I've indicated today in advancing those causes and issues which help win the war."

That's 10 weeks before his assassination. Does that sound like a man who's going to toss the Vietnam war in the dumpster?

Lastly, I think it was cowardly of Stone (or perhaps got in the way of his agenda) to ignore the mob's involvement in the assassination. If you want to read a gripping, unflinching, meticulously researched novel that considers all aspects of the plot -- including the mob and even Howard Hughes -- pick up James Ellroy's American Tabloid. By comparison the Stone film is a pallid, timid invertebrate.

FF= 1 (I FF'd through 20 minutes in the 2nd half, but that's only 10% of the running time, thus the good score)

Biggles Wrote:I don't much like Oliver Stone, and have never watched the movie, so I'll withhold judgment. I must say, though, that I welcome films that cause people to question the Warren Commission cover-up. The whole idea of a government commission investigating a government sponsored assassination is laughable!

Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Dear me, Biggles...so who =was= behind the monstrous deed? Again: Oswald was in the TBD. His gun was found there, as were his handprints on the rifle. He tried to kill General Walker. He =did= kill Officer Tippett. Who were accomplices? And I ask this with all respect and curiosity.

Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Dear me, Biggles...so who =was= behind the monstrous deed? Again: Oswald was in the TBD. His gun was found there, as were his handprints on the rifle. He tried to kill General Walker. He =did= kill Officer Tippett. Who were accomplices? And I ask this with all respect and curiosity.

KRW Wrote:I agree with what Jim posted after your post. LHO was part of this conspiracy. Now are you gonna tell us, that you believe the gov. when they say he was solo? If that's true, I'd say you took that rooster tail in the gills.


KRW

Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:Well, KRW, I'll repeat what I've posted before--a very good pal, smart guy, who was in the assassination-research gang for years, concluded, yeah, it was Oswald. LHO was a loose cannon. Would =you= include him in your plans to organize a beach party, much less assassinate the president of the United States? How could the "conspirators" have =known= that Jack Ruby would get to him before he spilled his guts? Unless the whole Dallas cop force was in on the deal. And then, we're in Twilight Zone territory.

jimbow8 Wrote:It was probably part of the plan from the beginning to get rid of anyone who got caught and could spill the beans. No one else got caught, therefore there was no need to eliminate them. Or maybe they did eliminate them, but we'll never know because we don't know who they were. There were several "questionable" deaths surrounding the assasination and witnesses.