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Midnight Mass ?? - Tempest - 12-09-2005

Being from SC, I've heard both sides of the debate endlessly. To be honest, both sides have valid points. There was a lot that was good in the Confederacy, and a lot that was bad. I don't have a problem at all with those who fly the flag to honor the good things, but I do have a problem with those who use it to fan their racism, classism, etc. I do agree that its annoying for people to move in from the outside and immediately start complaining about something they don't know about.


Midnight Mass ?? - t4terrific - 12-09-2005

jaybird Wrote:Good point about Tempelton. I chose this avatar because I was born in the south, raised in the south, I have 8 generations from the south, and I had at least 13 ancestors that fought for the C.S.A.. Im about as southern as they come. I am a "Redneck" but Im NOT a hillbilly. There is a big difference.

I drew many a Rebel Flag as a kid. Many Americans now call it a racist symbol. I call it the logo of a valiant attempt at liberty. It failed though, and now the victor gets to write the past.
"Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past." -George Orwell (1984)


Midnight Mass ?? - fpw - 12-09-2005

peachynat Wrote:Hey, don't apologize... I feel the same way

You two wanna get a room?


Midnight Mass ?? - Ken Valentine - 12-09-2005

jaybird Wrote:Yes. I am proud of my heritage. Its getting harder to find any real southerners any more. I think there are more "Yankees" here in georgia than north of the Mason/Dixon line. I wouldnt mind it so much but, they move down here and then say "I think your State flag is racist" so our whimpy, candyassed, no back boned Gov. folds like a wet tent and changes the flag. I wouldnt come to your house and tell you that I dont like the decor and I want it changed. Thats just rude and disrespectful. ...... Okay. sorry about that. I tend to get carried away with subject.

Near as I can tell, the word Yankee comes from the Dutch word Janken . . . which means "to whine." Big Grin

Ken V.


Midnight Mass ?? - t4terrific - 12-09-2005

Ken Valentine Wrote:Near as I can tell, the word Yankee comes from the Dutch word Janken . . . which means "to whine." Big Grin

Ken V.

I mentioned it before but where I come from, the word yankee, is always used as an insult.


Midnight Mass ?? - Ken Valentine - 12-09-2005

t4terrific Wrote:I mentioned it before but where I come from, the word yankee, is always used as an insult.

I think Lisa would agree. Big Grin

Ken V.


Midnight Mass ?? - Keith the Elder - 12-09-2005

Tempest Wrote:Being from SC, I've heard both sides of the debate endlessly. To be honest, both sides have valid points. There was a lot that was good in the Confederacy, and a lot that was bad. I don't have a problem at all with those who fly the flag to honor the good things, but I do have a problem with those who use it to fan their racism, classism, etc. I do agree that its annoying for people to move in from the outside and immediately start complaining about something they don't know about.

So it's ok to fly the Swastika to honor Hitler's stance against smoking because he was one of the first to postulate it's link to lung cancer and heart disease. Am I understanding you correctly?


Midnight Mass ?? - t4terrific - 12-09-2005

Keith the Elder Wrote:So it's ok to fly the Swastika to honor Hitler's stance against smoking because he was one of the first to postulate it's link to lung cancer and heart disease. Am I understanding you correctly?

Is it okay to wave an American flag because Americans were slave owners and slave traders for years. How many Japanes civilians were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

The South has a very proud and honorable tradition, much greater than that of the slave owners they opposed, from The North, in the Civil War.


Midnight Mass ?? - Keith the Elder - 12-09-2005

t4terrific Wrote:Is it okay to wave an American flag because Americans were slave owners and slave traders for years. How many Japanes civilians were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

The South has a very proud and honorable tradition, much greater than that of the slave owners they opposed, from The North, in the Civil War.


So I made my point then!


Midnight Mass ?? - fpw - 12-09-2005

Amazing...this started off as "Midnight Mass??"