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LOST... the 4th season - bones weep tedium - 03-20-2008
Maggers Wrote:There will be no enhanced repeat episode tonight. Phooey. I like those pop-ups. Tonight's new episode is the last of the pre-strike episodes, I believe. From what everyone says, the post-strike episodes should move with the speed of a flying bullet because of the need to make up LOST time, you should pardon the pun.
Do yo know how long the delay will be between the pre and post strike episodes??
LOST... the 4th season - bones weep tedium - 03-20-2008
What if the programme's flashback gimmick is more than just a narrative techique? What if it was part of the unifying theory behind the Island?
During Season 1 I always assumed the flashbacks were just a cool way of describing the character's past before the crash. It was a cheap way of making the narrative a little bit non-linear in a trendy Pulp Fiction kinda way, and it helped to create a brand identity for the series.
But following the Incident in The Swan when Desmond used the failsafe, Desmond's conciousness travels through time. The programme's flashback narrative structure remains the same, it's just that Desmond is aware of it. Obvioulsy the fail-safe incident has altered Desmond somehow, but what if the alteration isnt that Desmond can travel through time, but that the alteration is that Desmond is aware of it. All the other characters travel through time too, they just don't realise it.
LOST... the 4th season - bones weep tedium - 03-20-2008
bones weep tedium Wrote:What if the programme's flashback gimmick is more than just a narrative techique? What if it was part of the unifying theory behind the Island?
During Season 1 I always assumed the flashbacks were just a cool way of describing the character's past before the crash. It was a cheap way of making the narrative a little bit non-linear in a trendy Pulp Fiction kinda way, and it helped to create a brand identity for the series.
But following the Incident in The Swan when Desmond used the failsafe, Desmond's conciousness travels through time. The programme's flashback narrative structure remains the same, it's just that Desmond is aware of it. Obvioulsy the fail-safe incident has altered Desmond somehow, but what if the alteration isnt that Desmond can travel through time, but that the alteration is that Desmond is aware of it. All the other characters travel through time too, they just don't realise it.
The following post contains SPOILERS for both LOST: VIA DOMUS (video game) and Stephen King's THE DARK TOWER series of novels. Please press CTRL+A to highlight the text if you wish to read it.
[COLOR="White"]At the end of the Via Domus game the protagonist takes the Others' boat (the same one that Michael used) and leaves the Island. However once at sea he witnesses a plane crash . . . and then he wakes up on the beach again, right back at the beginning. This time around his girlfriend is amongst the survivors. In flashbacks during the game, we saw the protagonist betray his girlfriend, and we saw her being murdered becasue of it.
This massive RESET button style ending is very similar to the ending of the Dark Tower series, where Roland is forced to repeat his quest time and time again until he gets it right. The writers have stated in the past that Stephen King is a major influence over their work, and JJ Abrams recently bought the rights to film The Dark Tower. There are numerous suggested references to The Dark Tower throughout Lost, so it isnt unreasonable to make this connection. I don't know how much significance can be taken from the ending of te video game, as the show's writers were quite dismissive of it in their podcast the other day.
But it does seem to be connected to what I mentioned in my last post about the way the flachbacks might work. [/COLOR]
LOST... the 4th season - Paul R - 03-20-2008
bones weep tedium Wrote:... but what if the alteration isnt that Desmond can travel through time, but that the alteration is that Desmond is aware of it. All the other characters travel through time too, they just don't realise it.
Bones, to paraphrase myself from earlier... unbelievably, I was just thinking that the other day too!
Can you imagine us all rewatching the whole shebang, just to see who may or may not be aware that they are 'flashing back'?!
Of the people that were exposed to the radiation, only Desmond has a confirmed 'sense' that he's travelling. Who else do we have?
Locke - who really knows what's going on in Locke's mind... possibly not even Locke himself.
Eko and Charle - both dead... but remember when Desmond saw Charlie busking in 'Flashes Before Your Eyes'? Charlie had no knowledge of Desmond. Could this be because he ultimately dies on the island and so he can never become aware of his flashes?
I like this idea... (goes to the coat-rack to find thinking cap...)
LOST... the 4th season - Paul R - 03-20-2008
bones weep tedium Wrote:The following post contains SPOILERS for both LOST: VIA DOMUS (video game) and Stephen King's THE DARK TOWER series of novels.
I think there is a definite sense of... tries to think of a way to reply without giving away what you've just written re the game and The Dark Tower... fails...
Yes, I more or less agree.
LOST... the 4th season - Paul R - 03-20-2008
bones weep tedium Wrote:Do yo know how long the delay will be between the pre and post strike episodes??
I believe that the next batch of episodes is due to air Over There at the end of April (probably the 24th if they're to remain on Thursday evenings.) Not sure about a confirmed date for Over Here but if Sky One remain true to form, I guess they'll have it on the following Sunday evening.
LOST... the 4th season - bones weep tedium - 03-20-2008
Paul R Wrote:I think there is a definite sense of... tries to think of a way to reply without giving away what you've just written re the game and The Dark Tower... fails...
Yes, I more or less agree.
A nudge is as good as a wink to a blind bat watching Lost.
LOST... the 4th season - Paul R - 03-20-2008
Okay, I've been thinking about why Jack wouldn't want to see Aaron when they get back to the 'Real World'. He's a reasonably honest guy who, apart from a couple of bad decisions along the way, has always had everyone's best interests at heart. So it has to be a pretty big reason for him to distance himself.
And here's what came to me today. The time travellers need a Constant; Desmond has Penny and Daniel has Desmond. But where there's light, there's dark. What if where there's a Constant, there's also an antiConstant? Something that works in the opposite way? If it turns out that Jack is blessed with the same 'jumping through time' ability as Desmond, then it would be logical to assume that Kate could be his Constant, but given Jacks reluctance to see Aaron, could it be that he is Jack's antiConstant?
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 03-20-2008
Paul R Wrote:Okay, I've been thinking about why Jack wouldn't want to see Aaron when they get back to the 'Real World'. He's a reasonably honest guy who, apart from a couple of bad decisions along the way, has always had everyone's best interests at heart. So it has to be a pretty big reason for him to distance himself.
And here's what came to me today. The time travellers need a Constant; Desmond has Penny and Daniel has Desmond. But where there's light, there's dark. What if where there's a Constant, there's also an antiConstant? Something that works in the opposite way? If it turns out that Jack is blessed with the same 'jumping through time' ability as Desmond, then it would be logical to assume that Kate could be his Constant, but given Jacks reluctance to see Aaron, could it be that he is Jack's antiConstant?
Have you seen the "bunny" training video? It's officially called the Orchid training video and it has been referenced many times by me on this thread and someone posted a link to it on this thread. It had been available on the abc.com/lost site. It is also available in the Season 3 boxed DVD set.
I posted previously that I think there is a possibility that Kate's Aaron may be like the second bunny in the video, not quite Claire's Aaron. It's not a clone; the writers have said a million times there are no clones on the Island. It's something different having to do with time (maybe) and the other strange properties of the Island. That's what I thought as soon as I saw Jack's reluctance to see Kate's Aaron. Maybe Jack couldn't stomach such a thing, a duplicate (?) Aaron who can never be anywhere near the real (Claire's) Aaron, which is another reason why Kate wouldn't want to go back to the Island.
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 03-20-2008
Paul R Wrote:I believe that the next batch of episodes is due to air Over There at the end of April (probably the 24th if they're to remain on Thursday evenings.) Not sure about a confirmed date for Over Here but if Sky One remain true to form, I guess they'll have it on the following Sunday evening.
http://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/story/10855.html
That link provides confusing information. It says the 8th episode, the last pre-strike episode, will be the first episode of the second half of this season of LOST. But that 8th episode is airing tonight, March 20th. They call it a real jaw-dropper. It should be a goodie, judging by the coming attraction clips I've seen.
Additionally, after the brief hiatus of about a month, LOST will return on Wednesday at 10 PM instead of its current time slot of Thursday at 9 PM.
I'm not sure of the exact date of return. But I bet Marc will have that information. He's connected.
