Maggers Wrote:Again, my count for the acknowledged Oceanic 6 so far:
Hurley
Jack
Kate
Sayid
Sun

I don't think we can count Aaron since he wasn't on the roster of Oceanic 6 and he didn't pay for a seat.

sigokat Wrote:... I wonder why only 6 leave the island and the rest would stay. And how and why did Ben leave the island?

Quote:I could have sworn I saw it recently...like Season 3...I will have to go back and watch it again. And Hurley's car chase arrest was filmed...remember there was a guy standing in the background with a video camera.

Quote:No what I'm saying is that I don't think anyone on that island would have "visitors" (for lack of a beter word) at his/her funeral. Who would come see Claire now that Charlie is dead? Locke? Sayid? Sawyer? See what I mean? No one had anyone to begin with, so what's the big deal that no one would show up to the funeral?

fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]Yeah, but Aaron was on the plane.[/SIZE]

Maggers Wrote:Yeah, but do we know what story Kate has told the world about Aaron? Do we know that Kate has acknowledged that the child came from the Island? Do we even know for sure that Kate's Aaron is the same baby as Claire's Aaron? We don't really know who Aaron is, yet.

• Aaron was revealed to be in Kate's care at the end of "Eggtown". He was not yet born when the flight crashed, but the public would consider him a "surviving passenger" of it. He has not been specifically referred to as one of the six, but there are no other viable candidates for the last position. Furthermore, Jack mentioned in his testimony in "Eggtown" that there were 'eight of us that survived the crash' and 'two didn't make it'. But since Aaron was not yet born at the time of the actual crash, it would seem weird to already count him among the 'eight that survived'. So that would suggest that there were six living survirors, and Aaron was added later. NOTE: The official ABC promo for "Eggtown" claimed that another member of the Oceanic Six would be revealed in that episode. Since Kate was already semi-confirmed as per "Through the Looking Glass", this could be interpreted as referring to
  
• Aaron instead. Furthermore, the ABC promo for "Ji Yeon" claimed that the last of the Oceanic Six would be revealed in that episode, thereby suggesting that all the other members of the group had already been revealed by that point. Then again, the promo monkeys don't always know what they're talking about...
  
  
• Ji-Yeon Kwon, the daughter of Sun and Jin, would seem to have almost as good a claim to the title of "Oceanic Something" as Aaron. However, since the phrase 'Oceanic 6' would have been created by the media at the time of their implied resue, it is unlikely that Ji-Yeon, born in Korea after the rescue, would be included in the six. ("Ji Yeon")
  
  
• Michael could be the sixth member, as he is already on the freighter and was a valid passenger of Flight 815.
  
  
• Ben returned to civilization, but he was not on the flight, so even if known to the public he probably would not be considered an Oceanic survivor. ("The Economist") He has not been referred to as one of the Six.
  
  
• Desmond told Charlie that he had seen a flash of Claire and Aaron getting into a helicopter and leaving the Island, ("Greatest Hits") and Aaron has been seen off the Island, but Claire has not been seen or referred to in any flashforward.
  

sigokat Wrote:No what I'm saying is that I don't think anyone on that island would have "visitors" (for lack of a beter word) at his/her funeral. Who would come see Claire now that Charlie is dead? Locke? Sayid? Sawyer? See what I mean? No one had anyone to begin with, so what's the big deal that no one would show up to the funeral?

Paul R Wrote:They may have only known each other a short time, but in that time, a very strong bond has grown between them, regardless of whatever falling out has happened between them all.
That said, now that we know there are only six 'survivors', I guess it would be easier to make an educated guess as to who's in the coffin, based solely on who would or wouldn't go to the funeral.
I think the only person who nobody would want to go to a funeral for would be Ben. And yes, I'm including (and eliminating) Michael in that thought process.

Paul R Wrote:Is Michael really Ben's 'Man on the Boat'?
I think maybe not. It would be just like Lost to hand us Michael on a plate, letting us believe that he's the man, when in fact the writers have someone else lined up as their Big Reveal.
But who else could it be? I've no idea, but I'd like it to be Kelvin. But then, the freighter isn't big - so maybe it's someone we've already seen, but who we don't know, or rather, wouldn't recognise if we saw him/her. I've wracked my brains but can think of only one person who's been mentioned that we haven't seen: Radzinsky. Anyone else have any possibles?

Paul R Wrote:It would be just like Lost to hand us ________, letting us believe that ______, when in fact the writers have someone else lined up as their Big Reveal.

bones weep tedium Wrote:It might be a bit early to assess this sort of thing --- Whereas at any time during season 1 or 2 I would have agreed with you, right now there is a serious amount of fear/distrust/hate between Jack and Locke and their respective gangs. Locke is currently setting himself up to be a very unpopular person, and right now I could easily imagine that if it were Locke in the box, nobody would bother turning up to say goodbye.

bones weep tedium Wrote:It's really mean of Kate not letting Jack see Aaron, considering Jack is Aaron's nephew and Kate is jsut some scummy criminal.

When Kate was making a big deal out of keeping Aaron a secret, I figured he was a mutant, or like that creepy talking Bene Gesserit baby from Dune. . . I wonder if he can summon images from books like Walt can?

I took this bit from lostpedia:

• Aaron was revealed to be in Kate's care at the end of "Eggtown". He was not yet born when the flight crashed, but the public would consider him a "surviving passenger" of it. He has not been specifically referred to as one of the six, but there are no other viable candidates for the last position. Furthermore, Jack mentioned in his testimony in "Eggtown" that there were 'eight of us that survived the crash' and 'two didn't make it'. But since Aaron was not yet born at the time of the actual crash, it would seem weird to already count him among the 'eight that survived'. So that would suggest that there were six living survirors, and Aaron was added later. NOTE: The official ABC promo for "Eggtown" claimed that another member of the Oceanic Six would be revealed in that episode. Since Kate was already semi-confirmed as per "Through the Looking Glass", this could be interpreted as referring to
  Aaron instead. Furthermore, the ABC promo for "Ji Yeon" claimed that the last of the Oceanic Six would be revealed in that episode, thereby suggesting that all the other members of the group had already been revealed by that point. Then again, the promo monkeys don't always know what they're talking about...
  
  
• Ji-Yeon Kwon, the daughter of Sun and Jin, would seem to have almost as good a claim to the title of "Oceanic Something" as Aaron. However, since the phrase 'Oceanic 6' would have been created by the media at the time of their implied resue, it is unlikely that Ji-Yeon, born in Korea after the rescue, would be included in the six. ("Ji Yeon")

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Michael could be the sixth member, as he is already on the freighter and was a valid passenger of Flight 815.

Ben returned to civilization, but he was not on the flight, so even if known to the public he probably would not be considered an Oceanic survivor. ("The Economist") He has not been referred to as one of the Six.

Desmond told Charlie that he had seen a flash of Claire and Aaron getting into a helicopter and leaving the Island, ("Greatest Hits") and Aaron has been seen off the Island, but Claire has not been seen or referred to in any flashforward.