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Gia Must Stay!!! - Maggers - 11-01-2006
Scott Miller Wrote:... it is the hatred of her I find alarming...I don't hate her. I find her boring and uninteresting as a character. Think of Poppy, from "Deep as the Marrow." Now there was a well written female character.
Gia may appear to be a background character, but so much of what Jack does of late is related to her. I don't consider her mere background filler.
Quote: I think it is one of the pitfalls of writing a series, characters who weren't meant to be around for such a long time suddenly need to be fleshed out. And I think that FPW has taken such pains to make each book work on its own so that any new readers won't be completely at sea that we are forced to be introduced her in each book even though she is forever on the periphery in the books.
Well, bottom line, she is around...a lot. She is VERY connected to RJ, and she needs to be 3 dimensional in order for me to care about her. But who am I. I only read the books. I surely couldn't write them.
Gia Must Stay!!! - cobalt - 11-01-2006
I don't hate Gia, Scott. I just find her shallow and an air-head at times. I know she is necessary for Jack, because he loves her. Flaws and all, Gia is here to stay.......I repeat.......I just want to see her as more human and have some "balls"
Gia Must Stay!!! - XamberB - 11-01-2006
How about if Gia is falsely arrested and Jack must perform some type of quest before she is released. In the meantime he just barely keeps Vicky from getting picked up by social services. It takes Jack 3/4 of a book to get Gia out of the slammer and by that time she wises up and stops insisting that Jack become a 9 to 5-er. In fact, she now becomes part of the team.
Gia Must Stay!!! - Scott Miller - 11-01-2006
Maggers Wrote:Gia may appear to be a background character, but so much of what Jack does of late is related to her. I don't consider her mere background filler.
Nor do I. What I was trying to drive at earlier is she represents a critical piece of Jack's character, but to focus any more on her would take away from the impetus of the story so we're stuck with Jack's musings on her.
Maggers Wrote:But who am I. I only read the books. I surely couldn't write them.
We're in the same boat there.
Gia Must Stay!!! - Maggers - 11-01-2006
Scott Miller Wrote:... What I was trying to drive at earlier is she represents a critical piece of Jack's character...Geez, if I were dating someone as seriously as those two are, I'd hate to be seen simply as a "critical piece of [my partner's] character."
Quote: but to focus any more on her would take away from the impetus of the story so we're stuck with Jack's musings on her.I disagree. With a few strokes of his pen, FPW has crafted more fully blown background characters than Gia.
Ah well, as we both have surmised, we are stuck with Gia as she is, lack of warts and all. No point in belaboring this any further.
Gia Must Stay!!! - Noelie - 11-01-2006
XamberB Wrote:How about if Gia is falsely arrested and Jack must perform some type of quest before she is released. In the meantime he just barely keeps Vicky from getting picked up by social services. It takes Jack 3/4 of a book to get Gia out of the slammer and by that time she wises up and stops insisting that Jack become a 9 to 5-er. In fact, she now becomes part of the team.
See, now that sounds good. Some time in the slammer might do her some good.
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What I am very interested in seeing is how she ultimately reacts to losing the baby. That has some real potential to make her more real and less fluffy bunny.
Gia Must Stay!!! - Maggers - 11-01-2006
XamberB Wrote:How about if Gia is falsely arrested and Jack must perform some type of quest before she is released. In the meantime he just barely keeps Vicky from getting picked up by social services. It takes Jack 3/4 of a book to get Gia out of the slammer and by that time she wises up and stops insisting that Jack become a 9 to 5-er. In fact, she now becomes part of the team.
Noelie Wrote:See, now that sounds good. Some time in the slammer might do her some good.
I missed Xamber's post earlier. I agree with Noelie, GREAT IDEA for a story, Xamber!
Quote:What I am very interested in seeing is how she ultimately reacts to [spoiler alert deletion]. That has some real potential to make her more real and less fluffy bunny.
I agree here, too, though I don't hold out much hope of Gia becoming any rougher or tougher around the edges no matter what happens to her.
Gia Must Stay!!! - webby - 11-01-2006
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Noelie Wrote:What I am very interested in seeing is how she ultimately reacts to losing the baby. That has some real potential to make her more real and less fluffy bunny.
Maggers Wrote:I agree here, too, though I don't hold out much hope of Gia becoming any rougher or tougher around the edges no matter what happens to her.
I'm not Gia's biggest fan either, but I'm definitely going to cut her some slack on her reaction to losing Emma. Even if all she does in the next book is stay home, cry, and hold Vicky every possible second, that will be acceptable to me. It's a hard, hard thing to lose a baby, even before it's born, and Gia is soft in a lot of ways. She will probably be an emotional wreck for a while.
I mean, we saw our tough guy hero Jack melt into a puddle of emotion over it, right? I don't expect Gia to just bounce right back.
Gia Must Stay!!! - Noelie - 11-02-2006
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webby Wrote:I'm not Gia's biggest fan either, but I'm definitely going to cut her some slack on her reaction to losing Emma. Even if all she does in the next book is stay home, cry, and hold Vicky every possible second, that will be acceptable to me. It's a hard, hard thing to lose a baby, even before it's born, and Gia is soft in a lot of ways. She will probably be an emotional wreck for a while.Quite right, Webby. I expect her to be an emotional wreck for a while as well, but that's why I used the word "ultimately". Once she passes through the initial stage of grief and if she fully understands the circumstances, I believe there is potential there for a rage the likes of which we have never seen.
I mean, we saw our tough guy hero Jack melt into a puddle of emotion over it, right? I don't expect Gia to just bounce right back.
Gia Must Stay!!! - ccosborne3 - 11-02-2006
Maggers Wrote:Ah well, as we both have surmised, we are stuck with Gia as she is, lack of warts and all. No point in belaboring this any further.
Harbingers spoilers below
Maybe not. She was hit by a truck. Just because she lived doesn't mean she cant be horribly maimed or disfigured.
She could end up in a wheelchair.
Maybe even have a colostomy bag?
Anything could happen.
