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Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - thisisatest - 02-05-2005
Steve D
The present state of the RJ script (besides being in Development Limbo) is RJ vs. some Chinese Myth Monsters rather than the Rakoshi. This already bodes badly for me as a movie fan. I, for one, am no longer looking forward to the RJ movie. Maybe we should renew our email push to Beacon to get on with the movie and return the Rakoshi to the script! By my last count, less than a dozen people emailed Beacon to bring RJ to the screen.
And I guess while we're at it, we should also email UPN to keep Enterprize flying.
And wish a pony for me, too.
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Kenji - 02-05-2005
thisisatest Wrote:Steve D
The present state of the RJ script (besides being in Development Limbo) is RJ vs. some Chinese Myth Monsters rather than the Rakoshi. This already bodes badly for me as a movie fan. I, for one, am no longer looking forward to the RJ movie. Maybe we should renew our email push to Beacon to get on with the movie and return the Rakoshi to the script! By my last count, less than a dozen people emailed Beacon to bring RJ to the screen.
What!!?? （￣□￣；） !!
If it's ture, I will be disappointed....Okay, now I must email to Beacon!
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Sam - 02-05-2005
Kenji Wrote:I believe Repairman Jack movie will be okay. We should believe it. If we can't believe, who can believe?
But this is sure thing; If director(or screen witer) loves Repairman Jack novels, this movie will be success. The one reason of LOTR's success was peter Jackson loved this story.
You said it all, Kenji. No respect for the story means no attention to detail. I don't like that they have made changes, but that's Hollywood's fault. Maybe once the director has some control he can make changes and apply more of the original story. FPW said the actor wants to be RJ and seems to be somewhat committed considering he has been sporting an RJ hat, which means he's possibly doing a little PR on his own. If the actor is a true fan, his performance should be worthy. Let's hope the rest of the cast and crew are as eager.
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Sam - 02-05-2005
thisisatest Wrote:Steve D
The present state of the RJ script (besides being in Development Limbo) is RJ vs. some Chinese Myth Monsters rather than the Rakoshi. This already bodes badly for me as a movie fan. I, for one, am no longer looking forward to the RJ movie. Maybe we should renew our email push to Beacon to get on with the movie and return the Rakoshi to the script! By my last count, less than a dozen people emailed Beacon to bring RJ to the screen.
And I guess while we're at it, we should also email UPN to keep Enterprize flying.
And wish a pony for me, too.
I thought they moved the myth from India to China but it's still the Rakoshi??? And I emailed Beacon long ago but the mail was returned as though the addy was no good. Has the addy been updated??
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 02-06-2005
Mr_Falcon Wrote:Ever since I joined, I have seen a lot of buzz around here about a possible RJ movie. Plainly, the fans are excited. Certainly, fpw is excited: you get to see your creations on the big screen, big payday of course, etc. However, I would prefer not to have an RJ movie. Why?
1- I am not a movie buff. Hollywood in general makes bad movies since the blockbuster mentality took over after Star Wars . Oh sure, I'll watch them at home sometimes, but I hate the theater.
2- I prefer books. You can't curl up with a movie. Also, I imagine the books I read my way. I don't like confusing my mental picture with someone else's.
3- Call me petty, but while I don't mind the RJ fan base expanding, I'd hate for it too include the part of the public that doesn't know what a book is. It may not feel as special to me.
4- Hollywood does poor with SF movies in general, and does a horrible job turning the genre of fantastic fiction into movies. Let's recap a bit:
Asimov- Bicentennial Man- yawn
I, Robot- puh-lease
Nightfall- Oh the horror of it all. Worst movie ever!
Bradbury- Martian Chronicles- who knew Mars could be so boring?
Clarke- 2001- Well, here is an exception. Not a favorite movie of mine (too slow), actually, but I'll admit it is a cut above the rest, and a critic's darling.
Dick- Do Androids Dream- OK- another exception- SF book turned into classic movie.
We can Remember It For You Wholesale- The movie should have been titles "How Ahnold and Sharon Stone ruin movies in 3 easy steps".
Minority Report- Great Story, awful movie
Heinlein- Puppet Masters- this is a joke right? Could this movie have been worse? And such great material to work from. A shame.
Starship Troopers- aka "How to take a sophisticated SF story, and turn it into a killer-bugs-from-space movie."
Herbert- Dune- The best thing about this movie was Sting naked.
Tolkein- animated Hobbit, LOTR, ROTK- Wow, these were bad.
LOTR (Peter Jackson version)- one of the best movies ever.
So here is my scorecard- 12 classic stories, 3 good movies. And this is not even counting the movies that are so bad I have never seen (Moon is a Harsh Mistress, the Keep, etc etc etc).
I expect a lot of flak, so start firing...
I just saw I, ROBOT this weekend and I didn't find it as ghastly as I'd been warned. Of course, it had nothing to do with Asimov's stories, but it was an acceptable action flick. Problem is, seems to me, that these days Hollywood is less interested in making movies with a coherent plot and human drama (i.e., characters you care about, one way or the other) than finding a vehicle to hang fx from. (BTW, many years ago F&SF magazine ran a contest. You had to find 2 famous sf titles that, when juxtaposed, would make a sensible statement. The 2 I remember were, WHO CAN REPLACE A MAN?--I, ROBOT and THE LAST DANGEROUS VISIONS--NOT THIS AUGUST. :p )
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Kenji - 02-07-2005
Bluesman Mike Lindner Wrote:I just saw I, ROBOT this weekend and I didn't find it as ghastly as I'd been warned. Of course, it had nothing to do with Asimov's stories, but it was an acceptable action flick.
Right! I like Asimov's short stories, and also I like this movie. It's pretty good action movie.
Quote:Problem is, seems to me, that these days Hollywood is less interested in making movies with a coherent plot and human drama (i.e., characters you care about, one way or the other) than finding a vehicle to hang fx from.
Hmm.......you think so? Recently, I went to see "Finding Neverland" and "Ray". Those were wonderful human drama. Look around and find out better movies. You can find good drama.
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Bluesman Mike Lindner - 02-07-2005
Kenji Wrote:Right! I like Asimov's short stories, and also I like this movie. It's pretty good action movie.
Hmm.......you think so? Recently, I went to see "Finding Neverland" and "Ray". Those were wonderful human drama. Look around and find out better movies. You can find good drama.
You can, Kenji, that's true. But those movies are the exception these days. They used to be the norm. Look at I, ROBOT for example. Pretty good action flick. But did it have the emotional power of the short stories "Robbie" or "Liar!" from the Good Doctor's original short-story collection? I saw only one moving moment in the flick: when Sonny, about to be injected with the nannites that would destroy his positronic brain, asked Dr. Calvin, "Will it hurt?" Otherwise, it was a skillful man-of-action vs. a bunch of renegade
robots leaping about like goddamn idiots.
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Weatherford - 02-15-2005
I share everyone's concerns... but my biggest one is losing the philosophical essence of RJ - that shadow fellow who isn't part of the great government incursion into all our lives. He is not a Liberal - Hollywood will hate him and/or they will NOT take the time to understand him.
Once you remove his philosophy, you lose his character - he would just become another "fixer" - there was some series with a British actor playing a former SS Agent in NY who "fixed" things for people in exchange for "something" - so it was "free" but not really... I caught a couple of re-runs, and it was an interesting show. Reminded me of RJ and I wondered if the scriptwriters had gotten their idea from the books. (But, haven't a clue when the series was made.)
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Biggles - 02-15-2005
Weatherford Wrote:I share everyone's concerns... but my biggest one is losing the philosophical essence of RJ - that shadow fellow who isn't part of the great government incursion into all our lives. He is not a Liberal - Hollywood will hate him and/or they will NOT take the time to understand him.
Once you remove his philosophy, you lose his character - he would just become another "fixer" - there was some series with a British actor playing a former SS Agent in NY who "fixed" things for people in exchange for "something" - so it was "free" but not really... I caught a couple of re-runs, and it was an interesting show. Reminded me of RJ and I wondered if the scriptwriters had gotten their idea from the books. (But, haven't a clue when the series was made.)
"The Equalizer". Starred the guy who played "Breaker Morant".
Am I the only one who doesn't want an RJ movie? - Scott Miller - 02-15-2005
Biggles Wrote:"The Equalizer". Starred the guy who played "Breaker Morant".
Edward Woodard.