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Hellboy - the Movie - Jay #1 - 04-01-2004

*snort* Leage of Extraordinary Gentlemen had an entirely different storyline from the Comic series too. Never complained though.

Matthew Smith Wrote:I'm going to see it this weekend, but all the reviews I've read have complained that the plot is a little flimsy. But most reviewers gave it decent marks despite that.

Interestingly, most of the comic book sites that have reviewed it so far haven't complained about any changes made in the story and characters for the movie version. They're usually all over that.

--Matthew



Hellboy - the Movie - jimbow8 - 04-01-2004

You never complained about LXG? Why not? What was there to not complain about?


Hellboy - the Movie - Jay #1 - 04-01-2004

Well, besides the automatic weapons and a fast car, it was excellent. The vampire was especially good. Story on her was better than her counterpart in the comic, in my personal opinion. Also, A small part of me at one point wondered whatever happened to Tom Sawyer. So I was glad to see him in the movie. Also, while I liked the comic series, the movie was less graphic than certain parts. Example: The Invisible man went around in the comics catching women in bordellos by surprise and having sex with them, getting them pregnant sometimes. Granted, the story didn't have them complaining about it. Actually portrayed them as enjoying it, but that's beside the point.

Both movie and comic had their merits, and disadvantages. Why spend days on end complaining. *grin*

jimbow8 Wrote:You never complained about LXG? Why not? What was there to not complain about?



Hellboy - the Movie - Matthew Smith - 04-01-2004

I saw "LXG" with a couple of comic book professionals and my wife. The comic book people were horrified by the movie, but my wife loved it. I think what it came down to was, if you knew the comic, the movie was a real dissapointment, but if you didn't have that baggage going in, the movie was fine. I think "From Hell" was the same way. I don't know too many fans of the original book that liked the movie very much. I'm sure some did, but not the ones I've talked to about it.

--Matthew


Hellboy - the Movie - jimbow8 - 04-01-2004

I read neither the LXG comic nor the From Hell book. I liked From Hell quite a bit, mainly because Depp can do almost no wrong. LXG, however, I thought was horrible. I couldn't even finish it.


Hellboy - the Movie - Gerald Rice - 04-01-2004

AsMoral Wrote:I liked the HULK. I realize that I might be the only one who enjoyed it. Even if it was long-winded, boring and the HULK looked ridiculous. I guess it appealed to the B-Movie enthusiast in me.

SPIDER-MAN could have been better yes, but it was still an incredible transition from page to screen. The sequel comes out at the end of June, so here is hoping that it gets right to the action. I liked the X-Men films too, very enjoyable and well done.

The Punisher actually looks very good.

Comic films are getting much better than they were in the 80's and earlier. They are now taken more seriously and given actual budgets from which to work. They attract big names for directors and actors.

Compare recent comic book films to what has come to pass. Remember the horrible Spider-Man from the 70's with Nicholas Hammond? And the made for TV Captain America movies? Let's not forget the Captain America Movie that was made in the 90's with Matt Salinger (Who is he? JD's son, but does that automatically mean he should act? no.) Anyone remember The Punisher featuring Dolph Lundgren and Louis Gossett, JR?

With crap like Daredevil being made we can only hope that there are more X-Men and Blade successes before Comic-book films get laughed out of style.

Now, lets get The watchmen made into a film and we can all die happy.

-Tony

Tony, you are not alone. I enjoyed The Hulk. I thought it had a good story. The only problem I can see was it didn't have enough action to please the average comic fan. I think if they'd used the same kind of CG they used for Mr. Hyde in LOEG he would've looked more real.


Hellboy - the Movie - Matthew Smith - 04-01-2004

I actually ran into the screenwriter the day after I saw "LXG". His first words were "I'm sorry." I think he was just being flippant.

There were a lot of things that I liked about the movie. The action scenes in particular were a lot of fun, but I think the whole thing suffered from some real pacing problems. It was reported that after the director (Stephen Norrington) turned in his final cut, Sean Connery re-edited the film himself. I don't know if that's actually true or not, but pacing has always been one of Norrington's strengths, so I was surprised that "LXG" was so uneven.

My all-time favorite comic book movie remains "the Rocketeer". It's an amazingly well-constructed film, despite the fact that they took some real liberties with the source material. The character played by Jennifer Connelly in the film is a fill-in for a character who is more or less cult model Bettie Page in the comic. They toned all of that down for the movie. Still works though. And you've got to love that cool-looking helmet.

--Matthew


Hellboy - the Movie - Biggles - 04-01-2004

Matthew Smith Wrote:I saw "LXG" with a couple of comic book professionals and my wife. The comic book people were horrified by the movie, but my wife loved it. I think what it came down to was, if you knew the comic, the movie was a real dissapointment, but if you didn't have that baggage going in, the movie was fine. I think "From Hell" was the same way. I don't know too many fans of the original book that liked the movie very much. I'm sure some did, but not the ones I've talked to about it.

--Matthew

I found myself unable to ignore all of the anachronisms in LXG. Being unfamiliar with the comic, I wondered when I saw the WWI era tank and the post-WWII era assault rifles whether it involved time travel. When I found out that it didn't, it was just too absurd. And TOW missiles? Give me a break. I told my wife that it would be more believable that people could travel through time and bring back the technology than that it existed at the time depicted.


Hellboy - the Movie - fpw - 04-01-2004

Matthew Smith Wrote:My all-time favorite comic book movie remains "the Rocketeer"...And you've got to love that cool-looking helmet.

YES! I was crazy about the series -- my first exposure to Dave Stevens -- and haunted CBG for news that the next installment was out. The film was a wonderful period thriller. I like it enough to have bought a copy.

I love the part when he's trying out the rocket pack and loses control; he ends up skimming across a pond like a stone to end up covered in mud and weeds. He stands, pulls off the (yes, very cool) helmet and says, "I like it!"

And I don't think Jennifer Connolly has ever looked more beautiful than in The Rocketeer.



Hellboy - the Movie - Scott Hajek - 04-01-2004

fpw Wrote:YES! I was crazy about the series -- my first exposure to Dave Stevens -- and haunted CBG for news that the next installment was out. The film was a wonderful period thriller. I like it enough to have bought a copy.

I love the part when he's trying out the rocket pack and loses control; he ends up skimming across a pond like a stone to end up covered in mud and weeds. He stands, pulls off the (yes, very cool) helmet and says, "I like it!"

And I don't think Jennifer Connolly has ever looked more beautiful than in The Rocketeer.

This series is one of the best in comics.

Regarding the helmet: The movie producers wanted the helmet to show more of the actors face. Dave Stevens was adamant about the helmet being true to the comic and had one constructed himself... fortunately they went with the real helmet.

It's just too bad they didn't have the cheesecake in the movie... maybe then it would have done better.