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Brokeback Mountain - jimbow8 - 01-17-2006 Biggles Wrote:And keeping your tequila on the INside of the shot glass, where it belongs!Damn! That was funny. I can still picture Tony slamming his fists onto the table and the glass "falling" over. LOL! Brokeback Mountain - Tony H - 01-17-2006 jimbow8 Wrote:Damn! That was funny. I can still picture Tony slamming his fists onto the table and the glass "falling" over. LOL! I'm like a freaking bull in a china shop. Pauls reaction was priceless though. I half expected him to slurp the shot off the table. That shit was expensive. Brokeback Mountain - NewYorkjoe - 01-17-2006 Just as I am sure NYJoe wouldn't bust a cap in my ass. Though the jury is still out on Joe. Please rest assured that I wouldn't bust a cap in, on, or about your ass. Just so I can make myself clear, I don't object to gays, the gay lifestyle, or even films that have gay themes ("Philadelphia" or "The Boys in the Band," for example). Those are legitimate movies portraying subjects that exist in reality. If such movies reach straight America and promote some tolerance and understanding, then they have served a useful purpose. I would favor a film regarding the indefensible murder of a gay in Wyoming by homophobic thugs if it would tend to prevent another such crime from occurring. On the other hand, when a favorite subject and American icon (the cowboy) is taken and twisted to promote a political agenda, I must object. When gays refer to Brokeback Mountain as "the gay Gone With The Wind," then I must poke fun because someone is taking themselves just a little too seriously, especially when they go one to say, "if you're gay and don't go to see it, you are a bad gay." I always thought The Village People were a hoot, because I was living in Manhattan when such costumes were popular down in The Village, but I still liked their music and one could imagine worse ambassadors for the gay lifestyle (like Barney Frank, for example). Brokeback Mountain - Paige - 01-17-2006 My question to you would be how do you know that Brokeback Mountain doesn't promote tolerance of gays? And frankly, I don't think that it's any kind of "Gone with the Wind." Gay or otherwise. Brokeback Mountain - Annice Burdeos - 01-18-2006 AsMoral Wrote:I just saw Brokeback Moutnain on Friday night and I have to say that I managed to enjoy it and was bored silly at the same time. I agree with your critique To all those who are irritated to say the least regarding Brokeback Mountain- judge the film because you have seen it and not because you are taking the moralistic/religious/condescending viewpoint that your values are right above all others The audience I saw it with- more straights than gays (how derogatory to classify human beings in this manner), more old than young and at its end, sadness crept across so many faces I like to think that people are open minded enough to appreciate a well made film with solid performances all around, a well written screenplay based on a short story coupled with sensitive, nonexpolitative direction.......... for myself, I believe no on should be killed for whom they love Brokeback Mountain - NewYorkjoe - 01-18-2006 Paige Wrote:My question to you would be how do you know that Brokeback Mountain doesn't promote tolerance of gays? Again, you don't promote tolerance by taking a treasured American icon and twisting it into a vehicle for a political message. Take the same story, bring it up to the present, and have the two protagonists marry each other in Boston and live happily ever after. No problem. Brokeback Mountain - Tony H - 01-18-2006 NewYorkjoe Wrote:Again, you don't promote tolerance by taking a treasured American icon and twisting it into a vehicle for a political message. Take the same story, bring it up to the present, and have the two protagonists marry each other in Boston and live happily ever after. No problem. The book was in no way a political message and neither is the movie. Again, it's not even a cowboy/western movie. There is nothing in the film or short story that indicates it is a western. Yes, the men are ranch hands but it's their job in this movie, nothing more. Ang Lee is not even American and he directed this film. He had no vested interest in making a political statement. I hate to tell you this Joe, but gay "cowboys" exist outside of the realm of the Villiage People. Here in Arkansas there are MANY gay people who own farms and ranches, who compete in rodeo and do on and so forth. They are both gay and a cowboy. Sorry if 1 film has managed to decimate what you consider an American icon, but the film did no such thing. It is a LOVE story, not a western. Brokeback Mountain - Scott Miller - 01-18-2006 NewYorkjoe Wrote:Again, you don't promote tolerance by taking a treasured American icon and twisting it into a vehicle for a political message. Take the same story, bring it up to the present, and have the two protagonists marry each other in Boston and live happily ever after. No problem. I'm interested in hearing what political agenda is being pushed by the film. Saying there were no gay cowboys is like saying there are no gays in the military or in a locker room and how can anyone prove it anyways. Gays exist throughout history and to think they simply didn't exist in the west is patently absurd. BTW, I prefer the term hetero to straight. Brokeback Mountain - Maggers - 01-18-2006 The guys in "Brokeback Mountain" essentially took the job as sheep herders because there were no other jobs available for unskilled labor. One of the them remains a ranch hand for the rest of his life, again, jobs are scarce, and the other re-joins the rodeo, meets a rodeo girl, marries and leaves cowboying altogether. There is no ugly twisting in this movie. It's a straightforward tale of people who love and who cannot be together and the pain that brings. Brokeback Mountain - Maggers - 01-18-2006 Larry McMurtry, a favorite author of many on this board for his wonderful westerns, won a Golden Globe for his adaptation of the screenplay for "Brokeback Mountain." Just thought that was an interesting factoid. |