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LOST... the 4th season - Susan - 02-04-2008
fpw Wrote:Just wondering...could Jacob be the black cloud thing, or vice versa maybe?
Somebody else came up with that concept on this thread. I'm too lazy to go back and look, but it is an intriguing thought.
Susan
LOST... the 4th season - Marc - 02-04-2008
Susan Wrote:Somebody else came up with that concept on this thread. I'm too lazy to go back and look, but it is an intriguing thought.
It is an interesting theory but here is why I don't think that's the case. In season three Juliet states that the smoke is a security device of some sort. Also,it is revealed that the black smoke doesn't like the electromagnetic fence that protects the Others. I assume that Jacob is within the bounds of the fence in the vicinity of the Others camp (though it's ever been stated as such so I may be wrong) so I don't see how he can transform back and forth and move to either side of the fence.
I think Magger's may be onto something with her thinking.
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 02-04-2008
fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]Just wondering...could Jacob be the black cloud thing, or vice versa maybe?[/SIZE]
Cobalt mentioned that, and this was my response.
Maggers Wrote:I think you're on to something here, Cobalt. It could very well be that the black smoke is another manifestation of Jacob, although when Juliet was handcuffed to Kate, she told Kate that they don't know what the black smoke is but they do know it doesn't like their high powered invisible fence.
If the Others follow Jacob's every word, you have to wonder why they would keep a part of Jacob away from them. But perhaps the black smoke is Jacob's evil side. Maybe, and this just came to me, that's the only powerful part of him that can get around/over/through the ring of ash that surrounds the creepy cabin where Jacob seems to be stuck. The other images, like Kate's horse, Jack's father, Walt, are stationary images. The black smoke interacts with people, and as we know all too well, can grab ahold of you and kill you.
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 02-04-2008
Holy crap! I just watched another "missing pieces" mini-videoclip from abc.com. Holy crap! Given that in the last episode we saw a man with white shoes sitting in the rocking chair in the creepy cabin with Locke, and that man turns out to be Jack's father, you've GOT to watch the first of this week's "missing pieces" videos. Holy crap!
The other "missing pieces" videos have been shown before, but that first one is brand new. Holy crap!
LOST... the 4th season - ccosborne3 - 02-04-2008
Maggers Wrote:Holy crap! I just watched another "missing pieces" mini-videoclip from abc.com. Holy crap! Given that in the last episode we saw a man with white shoes sitting in the rocking chair in the creepy cabin with Locke, and that man turns out to be Jack's father, you've GOT to watch the first of this week's "missing pieces" videos. Holy crap!
The other "missing pieces" videos have been shown before, but that first one is brand new. Holy crap!
Cool, I'll watch them before I go to bed. I like to let my subconscience run wild solving mysteries ALL NIGHT LONG!
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 02-04-2008
ccosborne3 Wrote:Cool, I'll watch them before I go to bed. I like to let my subconscience run wild solving mysteries ALL NIGHT LONG!
Some random thoughts....
I have the feeling that the most important people on the Island may be Walt and Desmond. Of course Jack and Locke are key, but among the other survivors who haven't been as prominently displayed, Walt and Desmond are very special. Walt may even be as powerful as Jacob, whoever Jacob may be.
Desmond survived the hatch implosion with the ability to receive visions of the future. Walt has the ability to receive visions...remember way back when in the first season when Locke held his hand or touched his arm and Walt told Locke "not to open it." That happened when Locke and Boone were working on trying to get into the hatch. Walt seems to have some uncanny relationship to birds (remember the scene in his mother's home in Australia; I referred to that scene earlier on this thread and there's more about Walt and birds in the "missing pieces" video clips). I wonder if Walt wasn't behind that big bird that cried out Hurley's name as it flew over their heads while they were on their way to the Black Rock.
At any rate, I think that the Island is special not only in terms of time, but also in terms of sending out signals, signals that can only be picked up by special people who are able to receive the signals. Maybe it's the Island itself that sends the 4-8-15-16-23-42 over and over again in whatever way it can, for some as yet unknown reason.
But I think that Walt and Desmond are special because they can so easily receive signals from the Island. Locke certainly is a receiver, so to speak, and maybe Jack is in some way but he blocks those signals within himself because he is a man of science and does not have the faith to believe in such things as an Island trying to send messages to people.
Ben has been someone also in tune with the Island. I guess one of the tests to determine if you are special enough to receive the messages is to see if you can, literally, see Jacob.
LOST... the 4th season - cobalt - 02-04-2008
fpw Wrote:[SIZE="3"]Just wondering...could Jacob be the black cloud thing, or vice versa maybe?[/SIZE]
ooo......I think like FPW!
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 02-04-2008
cobalt79 Wrote:ooo......I think like FPW!We always knew you were special!
LOST... the 4th season - cobalt - 02-04-2008
Maggers Wrote:We always knew you were special!
That compliment from you Maggers, means so much! Thank you!
LOST... the 4th season - Maggers - 02-04-2008
cobalt79 Wrote:That compliment from you Maggers, means so much! Thank you!
Awww, shucks, Cobalt, thanks. Nurses are special people.